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Ehhhhh... Not surprised since he's been on the interviews for the head coach from the start.

Not what I meant, was saying that unless the oline is replaced there isn't a point to playing BY unless you're running power run with play action. He's going to get hit and beat up again for a second straight season otherwise.

Remember last year and the qb being sacked a lot and the oline looking terrible? Every single player on the oline and most of the depth is power run, play action type of line. If you wanted to switch from that, you'd have to replace nearly everyone currently on roster playing oline. The other option is letting Young get destroyed again for another season. :shrugs: it's depressing. Lol

ESPN posted them going into last week's games. It's part of the line play win rate article. He had 7 sacks on 168 pass rush opportunities going into week 18. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38356170/2023-nfl-pass-rush-run-stop-blocking-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams

He was 6th in pass rush win rate and had 8 sacks on one of the lowest pass rush opportunities amounts. I'm confused about this topic, it's like no one here understands line play at all. He 8 sacks on 180ish pass rush opportunities. The players above him in sacks are in the 270-300+ pass rush opportunities range.

I fully expect BB and O'brien to be in Carolina next season.

6th in pass rush win rate this season. His stats look bad because teams didn't throw much because of the teams limited offensive production. He had his highest run defense grade this season and was average at it. [67-68 grade] Coverage numbers were really good as well. Pass rush statistically speaking He was one of the best in the NFL this season but only had 170 pass rush opportunities. (Meaning using advanced stats) Going off that and Compared to everyone not named Parsons, the average pass rush opportunities was over 300.

Juan being Juan I see.

He had the same issues at Alabama but it didn't matter as much because the team was generally the more talented group of players.

Done

I've never thought he had the foot speed to be a LT.

New coach will want to move on from him after next season. He's got next year and next year only to prove himself.

He was still horrible for half a season and they protected the hell out of him during the half he was good.

Yep. Good NFL qb's should at least be competent and effective enough to make defenses pay when blitzed and be able to step away and feel pressure to make throws. I think the average time to throw in the NFL is under 3 seconds in today's game...

Need a whole new offense, basically a whole new oline, new wr's, new te, new rb, new qb. Need to replace every single component for the most part. It's so difficult to watch.

The Panthers defense faces the fewest pass plays in the league, teams run the ball nearly 50% of the time against them. Even then most of those passes are either off play action or short passes and screens. Pass rush doesn't exactly have a ton of chances when only facing 28 passing downs a game on average. Oh and the rush defense isn't bad, it's 12th in ypc at 4.1. I read this forum and I swear most don't watch games and if they do, they don't understand football. Burns is doubled 15% of the time, he's 6th among all edge rushers in pass rush win rate at 24%. The Panthers overall are 12th in the league in pass rush win rate.. You can't get many sacks when other teams aren't. 1. Thowing the ball much 2. Throw off play action when they do pass deep or 3. Otherwise throw short quick passes against you.

Since lots use pff on here.. (even though I'm not a huge fan myself) Pff has him rated the highest they've had in his career so far this season. His run grade is up to 67, pass rush in the low 80's, coverage at 85, overall at 76. It's Hard to get sacks when you're always loosing. (Most players sacks come from obvious passing situations) He doesn't like change, So it takes him a while for new schemes. He's dropping back more and has more responsibility in this scheme compared to last scheme. They keep evero and he will take off even further next season under him.

Overall is 76, run defense is 67, coverage is 85, don't remember the pass rush actual score but it's up there in the 80's. PFF thinks he's having his best season, sacks just aren't there

Trick fitt and the Teppers into a locked basement. Resign luvu. trade BY for whatever I can get. Focus on dline, oline and WR in FA. Run Dalton out at QB, power run and play action passing for a year. Lean on the defense and keep them fresh. Go into 2025 with a high first round draft pick and go from there. Most importantly, make sure that the Teppers and Fit stay locked in the basement.

I saw his footwork and off schedule/timing throw issues as well as him bringing pressure on himself and I'm not an NFL scout. He wasn't close to being my #1 qb in this draft. He was 3rd and I'm questioning that now. I said it during the draft lead up, you can't trade to #1 and take Young. It had to be Stroud or AR

The bad thing is the footwork stuff was a problem in college. It just didn't matter 90% of the time.

Because they knew we would suck for the season. Some of the staff wanted to redshirt him too.

Because she's on the panel that makes final football decisions along With Tepper, Morgan and Fitt. She's trying to learn football. Which if she's in that position.... is good I guess.

He got compared to Wilson and Murray but the difference is that both of those players are naturally 205-210 pounds and thick and can escape sacks in the pocket with regularity. Bryce plays at 185-190 and doesn't have the frame to get up to 210 or so naturally. That is ignoring his footwork and his seemingly to be unable to correctly perform 3 step and 5 step timing routes because he gets off schedule with his extra hitches

He shoulda never been in the conversation for qb1 in the draft. I mean I'm not a scout and only played oline in highschool but watching his tape at Alabama...everything shows up 100%. Bad footwork, below average arm, slight frame, inability to read front 7 and being able to slide the line to protect himself. Inability to get the ball out on time for timing concepts on 3 and 5 step drops. I don't know what to say to anyone, I thought the staff woulda been able to fix the extra hitches, bad footwork and make progression on his line reading because of his intelligence... but....