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It would be the same. Doesn't matter how healthy we are when the coach still operates in the 90's. The staff can't even get pre-snap penalties under control.

This team might have the logo of the team I’ve loved but this isn’t the Panthers. Whatever this is, is an ass that hasn’t seen a shower in a few months. We’ve been playing the “band-aid” game for a few years now and then giving the max haul for the wrong QB. only way to revive this is a full house cleaning, do whatever needs to be done to get Ben Johnson and a GM that buys into his vision.

It’s bad move after bad move after bad move. Treating draft capital like candy when other teams use it to find hidden gems and playable depth. Wrong coaching hires, two times in a row. Impulsive GM that must be following the orders of the owner. Everything compounded on top of each other, and here we are. it’s going to take years to undo this mess. We have been walking the line of “ready to win it all” and “we’re rebuilding” for a few years now, and well, now, it’s time to do the full rebuild from top to bottom. Prob means Bryce isn’t the answer as well

I would do whatever I have to do to get that man here, good lord.

I get it. But the more I watch him, the more I am second guessing the pick. Doesn’t help watching CJ putting on a clinic week after week. I’m fearful that every thing we’ve done has set us back half a decade (at least) from being competitive again.

All the positive signs you’re talking about were accomplished during pat stadding trash time.

What in the world make you want to keep this coaching staff though? Why would we want stability with the worst coaching staff in the league? The right GM, the right staff = winning team and stability. We currently have neither.

I keep seeing this pop up, but there is just no basis to this. There are only 32 NFL head coaching jobs out there, there will always be someone who wants the job.

Only because I have acquaintances within the realm of the Teppers, the obscenely wealthy pay a lot of big money to keep personal details about people within the family circle private and unavailable from public search. A lot of times, for their own safety.

I mean, this was during the Rhule tenure which is also the time when Luke retired (could’ve just been his time), but everyone that was worth a damn noped on out of here after Tepper/Rhule came on.

Which STILL blows my mind that we turned down what we turned down for him last year. I literally cannot believe we were that stupid.

You might be right there (for the record, I wanted CJ).

Perfectly put. There is someone out there, an up and coming coordinator or something that is looking for the opportunity to prove themselves and knows what to do with Bryce.

That would be the best news of the season if that came true.

Where are you getting this?

As blindly optimistic as this take here is, I fully believe it - Put someone else there calling the plays, running this show, and Bryce will look immediately different/better and we might even be competitive.

We've been in this horrible cycle of retaining GM after firing the coach, firing the coach and retaining the GM, etc. People aren't going to love it, but the right move is to rip the bandaid off and expunge both of them. Frank is not the right guy for the job, and Fit has proven to consistently make the wrong decision over and over again. New GM and let him find the right coach for this, Tepper has to be hands off from there.

Maybe so, but when you realize that you have a cancer on your hands you don't let it fester and turn into something bigger.

No, it would be the right thing. The old man is clearly out of his depth and has no idea what he is doing - play calling, situational awareness (Thielen incident last weekend), clock management, every part of this.

The fug you can't, as a matter of fact, that is exactly what he should do. Own the mistake and let the fanbase know you have some self awareness and you're committed to getting this right.

Likewise, brother

EXACTLY

But did we though lol. I mean, we've watched the same thing the last few weeks and absolutely nothing about it screams complex. I think sometimes we overthink what is doing behind the scenes there. Doing ANYTHING other that what we have been doing more than likely will have a net positive effect.

Very, very good point. God, I hate this team.