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Delhomme did the same thing. There have been many game managers who take their team to the playoffs. Some have even won a superbowl.

Missed a great game. Watching surly pissed off Falcon fans parade out of the stadium after talking so much crap coming in was delightful. What a wonderful beat down. Who knows how things go down the road but yesterday was one for the ages.

We really miss Thielen more than we want to admit. Renfro is no Theilen who made some amazing catches which really bailed Bryce out at times. I hated to see him go back to the Vikings although I completely understand why we did.

Josh is like any quarterback in the league. He takes what the defense gives him. Just like Bryce. The difference is Josh is better running and throwing on the run. His big plays are often not scripted and a result of a good running game something we are still working on. Buffalo has better personnel than us across the board. Makes it much easier to win. And about that false narrative about Bryce can't handle pressure. He did a great job Sunday against a heavy run and pass blitz. Which is why the Vikings got crushed and we crushed the Dirty Birds. Clearly the narrative of he can't throw downfield is being championed by those who see but don't really understand football. Otherwise you would see all the audibles Bryce called as he stepped up to the line and saw the heavy blitz. Receivers broke off routes and he checked down many times as he should have. Stop looking for things to complain about and enjoy the win. There may not be too many.

In 2 seconds how many can get deep? That how much time he had if you are paying attention.

You notice is it always the same people throwing shade. I didn't want Bryce when we drafted him but I am a Panthers fan first so I will support the team and its players even if they aren't my favorite. And this negativity with a justification of not accepting mediocrity is a load of crap. No one likes losing and not contending. No one celebrates 9th place. But it isn't like their bitching will change anything so why the endless complaints that most of us don't want to hear. Trust me we all get they don't like Bryce. But until he is gone he is what we have for better or worse. So I say root for his success and keep their crap to themselves. I don't know about you but it is only week 3 and getting old already. Sorry to hijack your post. Rant off.....

Actually teams are seeing that TMac is the only receiver who is a threat downfield at least so far and they are shifting coverage to him so it is true he was getting more double coverage . We don't have enough true downfield receivers who can stretch the defense. Legette has been invisible so far.

Did you watch other games yesterday. I didn't see the chart for Mahomes for example but he played small ball most of the day outside of a few tosses down the field on 50-50 balls his receivers made him look good. Truth is that a smart quarterback takes what the defense gives them and that is what we did. Once we had a lead it was about ball control and just methodically going down the field. It is crazy you win by 30 points and you still have haters trying to diminish what we did and complain. Honestly I think keeping their negative agenda seems more important than the team winning and playing well.

What happened to Atlanta today is what happened to us the past 2 weeks. The home team won. This is the first week our mistakes like a botched punt return haven't hurt us big time. The team that wins the turnover battle and makes the fewest mistakes usually wins. That is not a cautionary tale so much as a formula for success.

You will always be a doubters. That is your thing.

As you said, football is a team sport and it takes a team to win. As a team we played better than them so we got a W. I love the defense finally showed up and meant we didn't have to have a big offensive output to win like last year. It takes pressure off Bryce which helps tremendously in reducing him trying to be superman and make a play which turns into a fumble or pick. Going to 5 defensive linemen rushing the quarterback made a big difference I thought. Saw more man coverage as well.

First home game of the year and first win. If we can stay a tough out at home and steal one or two on the road we could be competitive. But the defense we saw today needs to be an every week staple.

That was a great game too..

You let the loss last week mean too much. At the end of last year Bryce was money under pressure and led several comebacks which the defense couldn't hold. Before the last drive he led 3 touchdown drives. You know who else couldn't score to win late last week but everyone loves him? Hint- he plays for Houston

Keep wearing those Blue Peppers jersey. The defense looked good. Rushing 5 on defense added more pressure finally.

Last time we won by thirty points was in 2014 against the dirty birds. Last time our defense was so dominant was with Wilkes against Detroit.

How do you think a defense which gave up 200 yards on the ground and 138 of those by halftime is doing better than the offense. It was over 6 yards a carry for Jacksonville even when we knew they were going to run. Both were dreadful. We were on pace to give up almost 500 yards which got reduced to 378 when Jacksonville focused on running out the clock instead of scoring more points. Do you know how many 3 and outs we caused all game. I drive at the beginning of the second half. Pitiful. Our offense had two 3 and outs which is not that unusual but surely nothing to write home about. No the defense is starting out exactly where it ended last year- historically bad.

That is why you have to have a good running game to take advantage of a light box.

Thielen contemplated retirement last offseason. This was his last year. Belichick used to get mad praise for trading someone before they retired or were a free agent and still had value. That is exactly what Morgan did. It was a gift which fell into Morgan's lap.

I don't think Morgan sees it that way. He talked about Adam's mentorship being a key reason he thinks Coker can man the slot and he can make the trade. If he didn't believe in his young core he wouldn't make the trade. He was emphatic is has to benefit the Panthers as well. Adam wasn't expected to be the go to guy this year.

It was Canales' choice I heard. He liked his physical skills and expressed an interest in working with him. We should always have a qb on the practice squad. Me I am a zappe fan given we both attended WKU obviously decades apart.

Morgan said Minnesota called wanting Adam back and he told Thielin about it who said he would be interested n going back there since he has a house there and could end his career at the place he started. Morgan said he would do his best but wouldn't give him away for free. But Adam wanted the trade and Dan accommodated him while trying to get something for him. Dan didn't want to trade him but as a former player he knows how important playing in one place can be. And his respect for Adam compelled him to get the deal done.

His style of downfield throwing is Bryce's style as well now. We have several downfield threats who are good with contested balls or getting wide open. That makes it easier for Bryce to toss it up and have the receivers go up and get it. Kind of like what Delhomme had with Steve Smith. Bryce was huge under pressure and with the deep ball at the end of last year. They worked offseason to bring in guys to help Bryce with receivers and running backs. XL and TMac were brought in to help Bryce with the scheme Canales is going to use. There is no new or old scheme anymore. Just the scheme we are using this year.

If we pick in the top 10 because the offense didn't perform you are right. And I would be all for it. I was advocating bringing in one this year to provide competition. Bryce is still got to show an upward projection from where he was last year. I was thrilled and shocked by his improvement but let's be real the floor after the first 2 games was the basement not even the ground floor. It had to improve. Maybe Hooker can be that guy if Bryce struggles. I Iiked him coming out of college

One thing I will say is you always have to get in the last word and keep repeating yourself as if that makes you right. Since Bryce and Canales are on the same page and this pffensive scheme us designed for Bryce uour round peg argument is off base as well. But don't let that stop you since it hasn't in the past. Unless you can say something new or use facts and expert opinions to back up your comments as I have, I am done. You clearly have nothing to add to the conversation but the same circular comments which are simply your unsupported opinions. I don't have time to waste going back and forth. Carry on.