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Not unhappy we won't get the opportunity to kill the franchise over one player. If our system is as good as Brady thinks we should be fine with a rookie QB we can develop. If we had mortgaged the farm for Watson we would not have the defense to compete in this division for years.

Great negotiating strategy to get a deal. We will pay anything. Name your price. Crazy if you aren't priceline.

That is the point with stats. They are numbers plain and simple. The analysis is key and what gives numbers context. And our system as it was run last year doesn't focus on the running back as simply a running back but someone who can block, run and catch passes which is why McCaffrey is so valuable. It isn't looking simply at a position but how that position is used by that team thus defining the value of that player to that team. That is why as valuable as Davis was last year he was a partial replacement for CMC who can do everything Davis can do and much more.

As a Panther fan in February it makes sense to be positive and looking forward to an off-season and training camp and some return to normalcy as we hopefully transition away from Covid 19 as vaccines become more available. Tepper has his team in place and we will see what happens. It is way too soon to be negative. Plenty of time for that in the fall if things don't work out again......

And gee I thought football was a team sport. I guess the emphasis of Madden and Fantasy football has made everyone all about the player and not the team. I though all real football fans knew that.

That isn't true either. He didn't compare that well to true slot or wide receivers largely due to limited opportunities. The majority of the time his passes were behind the line of scrimmage and there he dominated. He had done whatever asked and had still been used as a primary RB. That doesn't mean he isnt good in the slot given how elusive he is in open space. He hasn't really played much in this system. Let's see how 2021 goes.

I don't think as a running back, CMC is responsible for wins or losses so that is pretty ridiculous to mention. He has been our most productive player until his injury. And honestly he was force fed because we had a quarterback with a bum arm and few other assets on offense. Even with everyone keying on him he was very productive. You way underestimate his value because of 2020.

CMC isn't a running back and isn't paid as one. He is the best hybrid back who can run up the middle and play the slot better than most receivers. He is a Swiss army knife who is arguably the best player in the team. The only caveat is now saying when he is healthy. Comparing him to just running backs isn't really apples to apples.

Maybe we can be prevented from doing what we seem determined to do by other teams with better trade bait. We might still be saved from ourselves.

With contracting cap space there may be several veterans who are looking for new teams

That is it really. What if we give up Burns, Chinn and 3 first rounders for Watson and then he gets hurt behind our porous line. Then we have a crappy offense and an even crappier defense and no first rounders for years. If the system is so great, then why do you need Watson to run it at the expense of decimating your defense? And can a rookie come in and run the system by moving up in the draft giving up far less in compensation.

Contracts in year 1 can be cheap if the salary is the signing bonus which is prorated. If we can sign Samuel to a 4 year 40 million contract with a 15 million signing bonus we could pay as little as 6 or 7 million in 2021. I figure he would be well worth that. By year 3 there would be no guarantee money and dead cap money wouldn't be bad.

Isn't this the time when everyone lies and you can't take anything too seriously while teams try to not tip their hand? Why isn't this likely more of the same??

If you are looking for a raw guy with potential which may or may not materialize then pick Lance but if you want the most pro ready QB in the rookie class go with Jones. Is he the best, no. But he would be solid like he was at Alabama. And for those who say he needs a good offense around him, we are a couple of linemen short of a very good offense. I don't know about every scheme but he would be solid in ours.

The idea isn't that Stafford is equal to Watson simply to me that Stafford may cost much less making him a better value given where we are. Would you rather give Detroit this year's first for Stafford or give at least your next 3 first rounders for Watson or even more. If Watson gets hurt in the next 4 years you got nothing and no first rounder. Given so many guys get hurt in this league I don't know that if he is much cheaper that Stafford isn't the better option. No one would say Stafford is better straight up.

Here is a good list of players who coached in the league. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/869309-top-26-former-nfl-players-turned-coaches.amp.html

Keep in mind that once he is traded we inherit his salary but not the prorated signing bonus so in 2021 his salary is 10.5 million and even in 2022 it is 35 million. So it isn't until 2023 it gets high and that could be renegotiated. His salary is actually pretty doable.

Washington is getting what they need. Someone who will get Rivera the guys he wants and who has a great relationship with him. At this point it seems to be a good plan. Just because Hurney's future wasn't here doesn't mean he won't be effective working with an old school coach who believes similarly to him. Neither Hurney or Rivera were a good fit for our analytics driven approach but for old school traditional football they both seem to fit in fairly well. Hurney can train his successor.

How many player for player trades ever happen? Most times it is shedding a salary and vet to get picks and younger cheaper guys. Watson won't be the only bet QB available. They might want someone like Bridgewater if they want a vet for experience but they will want draft picks for the most part.

Seems some folks in Washington think it will be a great idea. https://www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2021/1/18/22237846/what-would-the-hiring-of-marty-hurney-mean-for-the-wft-front-office

The effort to undermine the media is deliberate and having a negative effect for sure but I don't think that people are losing faith in journalism as much as they are accepting low brow political rants as reporting and shoddy factless conspiracy theories as breaking news. Most people aren't discriminating enough to know the truth when they hear it There are good sources of information and news but you have to be discerning and listen with a critical ear. There is very little true journalism going on in television and social media is a minefield of misinformation. The good news is that there are still some good people out there with integrity. The bad news is that the majority have an agenda or less than sterling motives.

Black lives protesters have been by and large peaceful. Let's not confuse protesters with rioters who are comprised of activists from both extremes with an agenda to create division and foment anger. I read a meme earlier today suggesting no one has ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American populace. Seems media just panders to the lowest common denominator.

That is crazy thinking. The only folks who call the media the enemy of the people are deranged despots who want no record of what they are doing or saying and no one calling them out. We haven't had fake news until we had a fake president who was a reality TV star. The media isn't the problem it is people who blindly follow anyone who will tell them what they want to hear. The majority of people don't support trump and primetime viewers on Fox in April averaged between 3 and 4 million viewers which was number 1 but hardly an overwhelming majority of viewers. Frankly I rarely watch any of them these days.

Florida fired the statistician who was doing the Corona count because she refused to under report the numbers. Apparently her replacement has fewer qualms. Florida is just manipulating the numbers while they head straight to a disaster. With the state so full of old retired people, Florida should be taking huge precautions instead of ignoring guidelines already in place.

Never been this bad. Even Nixon looks good by comparison and that is saying something.