Davidson Deac II

Imo, the ability to get the ball out quickly and accurately under pressure is still the most important skill a qb can have. Of course, when you can do that and still run around and make freaky looking throws, you get Patrick Mahomes.

You might be right, but some make the argument that qb's in college throw the ball more than they did 20-30 years ago.

I kind of feel like we have depth. What we need are more starters. I mean some of the guys we have would make excellent backups.

There are a handful (a very small handful) of NFL qb's in history that were able to handle it. Cam Newton, mainly because of his size and strength. Jayden seems to be doing ok but that is because he had an almost idea setup and he played a lot more games in college than the majority of these guys do. But If he were in Chicago, not sure he would be doing any better than Williams. Most of the NFL greats (Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Bradshaw, Staubach etc...) sat for a while. There is this myth that today's qb's are able to play right away because of what they did in college. It ain't true.

Its almost as if rookie quarterbacks shouldn't be thrown into the fire from the beginning.

The point is not that winning a few games will change the culture. It's more that intentionally setting up your team to lose never changes things for the positive. I fully agree with getting rid of expensive players that can't help you long term for draft picks. This is a strategic move and if properly implemented, can help. Cowboys did that with Herschel Walker. And got a few SB's out of it. And of getting rid of players that don't work out. But just dumping the team for slew of draft picks doest work.

And tank for Tua, tank for Trevor. And so on and so forth. Fwiw, I don't remember a single tank for Mahomes comment.

I am not a fan of Sean Payton, and I hate to see him succeed. That being said, Nix appears to be a good pick. Makes good throws, has a decent arm, and doesn't throw many int's. IMO, that is all you can ask out of a rookie.

Stafford needs to retire.

Since the OP posted it, the Panthers are 2-0. They will likely lose to the Chiefs, but I wonder if they will cover the spread.

Not really sure what Hopium is. But I may have tried some of it when I was younger. But nothing we say here makes one bit of difference in what happens to the team.

And Brooks might finally play. Of course, if he does, it will be against the best run defense in the league. Baptism of fire I suppose.

Of course he isn't sold on Young. No one in their right mind would be. Might be a little encouraged though.

You know this tanking thing might have some merit. Miami tanked, and now they are one of the, well they still suck. Cleveland had more top five draft picks than just about all the teams in the NFL, and now they are, well they still suck. Detroit did tank unintentionally for 15-20 years, and now it is finally paying off. On second thought, tanking sucks. Good draft picks, good coaching, good free agent moves lead to winning. And building a winning culture is a big deal to and you don't build a winning culture by intentionally losing. The Chiefs are the best team in the NFL, and they never tanked. They had a winning culture, and then made one of the best trades in NFL history to move up a few spots to get Mahomes with the 10th pick in the draft. Had they tanked, they might have drafted Mitch Trubisky.

The defense has been beaten up by incompetent offenses (Bears, Broncos and even the Raiders). Actually holding down an incompetent offense is an improvement. Not a big one, but an improvement nonetheless.

A currency native Americans used a few hundred years ago. Which is why I thought, what an odd last name.

I was listening to the radio broadcast. I swear I thought they said DJ wampum

Bears offensive line may be worse, but their offense overall is better. Statistically, the Giants offense is the worst in the NFL. But as I said, it was still a good showing. In truth, the defense has played better overall the last few weeks. I thought they played well against the Saints at least in terms of the pass defense. The run defense still needs a lot of work.

I agree it looked better. We no longer look historically bad. But we still need to make a lot of additions in the offseason. But playing against the Giants does help statistically.

Baker is playing well, but their team overall is very inconsistent. Wins over Detroit and Washington, very bad home losses to Denver and Atlanta. But they have had a rough schedule. They are fortunate that five of their last six games are against teams with losing records. But losing twice to Atlanta really hurts their chance at the division.

Agreed. The yard total is irrelevant. All that matters is that when he threw, he made more than he missed. And he threw the ball down the field several times. Not to many side/outlet passes. I still don't think he is going to be the guy going forward, but it was nice to see some improvement that gives slight hope.

The Texans uniforms remind me of the movie Tron.

Its their own blood.

After watching the Cowgals today, I am not so sure it shouldn't be the other way around. They looked far worse than the Saints or Giants.

Well, I am sure he can console himself with all the Superbowl rings. lol