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I mean, just look at this tweet. Both Wingo and Silverstein cite their "sources", but their "sources" are saying completely contradictory things. i

Would 3 and 15 be enough for the Packers? SF trades Jimmy G to NE for 15, and then packages 3 and 15 to Green Bay for Aaron Rodgers.

Meanwhile in Foxforbough:

Seeing some speculation that Rodgers is trying to push GB to take SF's earlier offer. He wants SF.

It's really not about brining in competition. It's a belief that one QB in this class, not named Trevor Lawrence, can be a special, elite, franchise altering kind of QB. If he's there, you take him regardless of who else is on the roster. If he's gone, you take the next best player on your board at whatever position that is (OT, CB, etc.)

Guess who already traded 2 of those 'like gold" picks away...

We improved our 6th. The pick we got from Denver is like 20+ picks higher than what we gave NYJ.

Gantt writes for the team. It makes me wonder if he knows something about the plans.

Even if Darnold is bad, the Panthers are still probably picking in the teens instead of the top 10 meaning it will be all the more expensive to move up for a QB.

Last night NFL Network replayed the Elite 11 7 on 7 camp from 2017. Elite 11 is a camp for elite high school quarterbacks run by Super Bowl winning QB Trent Dilfer. The 2017 class featured two guys who figure to also feature prominently Thursday night, Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. I think some of the things they say about Quincy Patterson (came from a run heavy offense) may apply to the transition Trey Lane faces. I want the Panthers to draft Fields ever more after watching this. If the 49ers are crazy enough to take Jones, get Fields.

Somebody's got to explain the Wilson love to me. I don't see it. (Edit: I have a ton of respect for Jeremiah's evaluations.)

That's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it (and have given logical reasons for it). I don't agree as we've discussed. The Panthers don't necessarily see things the way either of us do. We'll find out what they think Thursday night.

"You talked about passing on a quarterback who would have been good. That's not guaranteed." No one can guarantee any rookie will work out. We also can't guarantee Darnold will out. Nothing with the Panthers QB situation right now is guaranteed. "If you take a first round quarterback and Darnold turns out good, you've wasted a number eight overall pick on a backup when you could have solidified another starting position." Any rookie has the chance for failure so you might or might not have solidified another starting position. Regardless, if Darnold turns out to be good, you haven't wasted the pick. A QB drafted in the top 10 will still have value in a year. Look what we gave for a QB who was (to be generous) not great his first three years. He still had value. Look at what the Cardinals got for Rosen a year after drafting him. He still had value. Whoever we picked at #8 would have value a year from now. "If you take a first round quarterback and he's not good, you've screwed yourself out of two positions." There's an opportunity cost involved with whoever we pick. If we had take a first round OT and he's not good, we've screwed ourselves out of two positions, too. Thought exercise: If Pitts was there, should we pass because we signed Dan Arnold?

5 of the last 10 Super Bowl winning QBs were first round picks. The non first rounders were: Brady x 3, Russ and Foles. First rounders were Rodgers, Flacco, Eli, Peyton, and Mahomes.

Never said that.

If he doesn't pan out, it isn't, well darn, he didn't pan out. you're out the draft resources you spent (edit: to acquire Darnold) and you've wasted a year, and you've potentially let a QB who would have panned out go to another team and you can watch him win in the playoffs while the Panthers sit home in January (again). Every fan wants sustained success. The fastest path there is a true franchise QB. If the team believes Justin Fields can be a true franchise QB, they should select him at #8, regardless of who else is on the roster. Let Rhule and Brady figure out the reps in training camp.

The Jets have nothing else at QB. They'd have to sign a vet or trade for one. If that was the plan, they would have taken Teddy as part of the Darnold trade.