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It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
That whole debacle with X pre draft was a teaching moment. They kept things close to the vest last year. -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
The Panthers should draft BPA, period! -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
First, apologies @MHS831, I know you began this about tackles, and it was good. But... Frank, your post is just another Bryce sucks post. You obviously believe, like your buddy, that if we draft a WR it's all about evaluating Bryce Young or coddling Bryce Young. In short, it would be about improving the damned team. If anything, if Bryce is as destined to fail (or is already a failure right now... irredeemable), then another playmaker at WR would just seal the envelope and send him on his way. In my world, that's a good thing. If some of you think that Bryce is a lame duck, then why wouldn't you want to set the offense up for the next QB to come in and be dropped into the offense to have success? Or, maybe you think it's all a moot point anyway because Tepper sucks, Dan Morgan sucks, Canales sucks, Ejiro sucks, Brandt Tilis sucks---everybidy sucks! If that's the case, then why does anyone care who or what we draft? Obviously some of you have all the answers and can run a gotdamn franchise better than the FO does now. -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Honestly, you don't listen to a word I've said either. A board, WHERE THE BPA comes from, IS GOING TO HAVE POSITIONAL VALUE BUILT IN! Damn, man! -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
And BPA is not even something magical, but y'all do y'all. -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
It is not; I don't care how many times you say it. You obviously don't believe a word that Dan Morgan says. But if it makes you comfortable to believe it's a myth, then believe on! -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
And, for the record, I would love to get Monroe Freeling. He's a fellow Bulldog, teachable and will be an excellent choice in my opinion. -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
No, I have been consistent. Take the BPA. You don't reach down over a position to take a lower graded player out of a sense of need, or some decidedly arbitrary notion that you can't draft a position three times in a row. That's why I have debated WR. Don't reach down! That reeks of desperation which doesn't lead to the desired results. No one knows how the draft will fall, so all we have to deal with is "ifs." I've consistently said that you follow your board. It's that simple. If your BPA is OT, take him. If it's safety, take him. If it's LB, take him. If it's EDGE, take him. If it's WR, take him. It's that simple. -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Because maybe, just maybe, a WR is the BPA. I know, it's simple, but it's a long-standing philosophy. The first round has several solid options. If there is a run on tackles (which there probably will be at the top), then you have to pivot. -
An Offensive Tackle for the Long Term, but....
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
We needed this. Many Huddlers are going to disagree to varied extents, but the 2026 OT class has more question marks than exclamation points. There is a higher than normal chance that someone is going to overdrafted. But, if you have conviction that the guy will be a starter this year at the position you are drafting him for, you have to pull the trigger. It's possible, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's likely. It's going to depend upon the guy. Canales basically said that we're not going to draft for depth in the first round (and he said it with what I consider was low-key disdain). -
It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
That depends upon what happens with receiver this year and what happens with free agency next year. Hopefully we'll be good by addressing receiver this year (regardless of whether we snag one in the first round or not). If we don't and are unlucky enough for to Coker get hurt (and X solidifies his bust status, and JAGs be JAGing), then we may be fùçked! But I assume that Dan Morgan and company will feel compelled to look for answers in free agency and use that to set up the draft just like this offseason. Reality is not as simple as we drafted this position X times in a row in the first. If you're suggesting that we could draft a position in the first four times in a row, that's not likely. At some point probability has to be taken into account. I mean, how many years in a row can you be unlucky with one position? As I've said at times before, you try and plan for the long term personnel-wise and cap-wise of course, but things happen so, in a sense, you still must look at each season--each "team" if you will--unto itself each season. So many things can happen between now and then. A major industry can profoundly impact the bigger picture (like this year), someone could offer you a trade proposal that you can't resist, players might not have progressed to your expectations--you know, things like that. Moreover, you have to be aware of the dynamics of each draft class, including the fact that there could be unexpected draft risers and fallers during the college season. That's a lot. As of today, we expect the 2027 draft to have more exclamations than question marks at OT and the QB class and WR group is expected to be exceptionally strong. We'll have a clearer picture of whatever we'll have to focus on next year at this time. Lastly, keep in mind that there's always more than one way to get you to where you want to go. The yearly puzzle is not static, it's dynamic and complex. -
It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
You don't know if it would be the fifth best receiver or not. Keep it ! Whether any receiver gets catches or attempts will mainly depend upon if they're adept at getting open. Hell, someone in the second or third round could end up being the best receiver in the draft, and that's not a stretch because it's happened enough historically when you start paying attention. -
It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
You're doing a lot of projection for a guy who has two seasons under his belt and can't seem to stay on the field. Not you necessarily, but I remember someone doing some calculations about Coker after season 1. I surely wouldn't count on it. If anything, it's another reason why we need another legit receiver. I know where you stand, but I'm just not going to agree. -
It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't find it unfair at all. Have you compared Coker's actual production to other second and third options in the league. Come on, man. For the record, I am a proponent of the BPA. I don't care what position it is. Similarly, I am very much against reaching down over a superior player to get another one based on need. It's as simple as that. -
It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
TD alt replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Why four years? The fact is is that we only have one legit WR right now. One! The rest are a hurt UDFA and a room full of JAGs. Moreover not one TE even has to be in the league in four years, and certainly not anything but "guys." If Icky can come back anything around confidently and we can keep at least a couple more, then we at least have more than just guys across the line. I will never agree with the suggestion that we can just get a fast shifty receiver anywhere. That's not that high of a bar. We need a play maker. Scouting goes all ways. If you scout well, you can find a gem or two at any position in theory. We have done it for the OL before.
