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I'll buy that projection, though I think he'll be a bit higher on the TDs. With those weapons he'd better be.

Just Sammy is fine.

For the haters....what would you suggest that would have widespread appeal and that everyone could sing along with?

Yeah I think you are right. I think Sam is really charismatic and very positive, which will be a big bonus for him, but I also see him as expecting a lot from himself and working to getting the best out of himself as well as everyone around him.

No...and he doesn't have to be to be good and effective. There's quite a few different types of effective leader. Cam's, to a degree, was unique to him. Same with Jake. I think both were great. Sammy will find his own voice...or maybe he has found it. If I had to guess, I would see Sam as being more closely resembling Rhule. The kind @MHS831 calls the Shepherd dog kind of leader.

I think he has the same impact Jake had coming in. I mean we had NO reason to believe in some scrub who couldn't hack it with the lowly saints and had to go play in Europe. I mean we had Rodney frikkin Peete here for Pete's sake. And we had recently drafted weinke...but Jake happened. All in all I see Sammy as a cross between Jake and Cam.

I think the experience as a leader he gained will definitely be an asset. Of all the criticisms there has been of him, his leadership was never one of them. He was always highly regarded in that way. It's the on field performance that was the issue. The fresh start with added maturity is going to help out a lot. When I was really young (17-22), I made more than my fair share of mistakes and what I always hoped for was a new start in a new situation. I'd say to myself, "if I had a chance to do it over again, I would do this..... I would stop doing ......." I've got to think the experience he had with the Jets has him better prepared for being a Panther.

Been thinking a lot about this, but the one thing I want to see is him stepping into the leadership role here. He needs to make this his team...his offense, and the rest of the team needs to start looking at him as a leader right away.

Gonna buck the trend... Low: thought about Joey Slye here. Thought about Paradis. I thought about Ian Thomas here. I feel bad putting anyone here but I think the easy pick is Greg Little. Almost too easy because I don't even see him on the roster when the season starts. I have every confidence that any of the other guys at OT on the roster could do better than him. No one responsible for drafting him is here anymore so cut him lose and let him get picked up by WFT. Not sure: the three guys I thought about above could go here, but I'm thinking more Dan Arnold. I think he could be good, but I just don't know. I keep forgetting about him. I'm hoping that he makes himself memorable...in a good way of course. We just have so many good receiving options I don't know how much he will be used. High: Sammy. I believe in his rehabilitation here. Call me a homer. Call me high. I don't care. I think he's the real deal. Don't ask me to justify it for you cause I won't. It's just my gut and my gut is telling me that to expect good things. You don't have to agree with me and I don't blame you one bit for not agreeing with me. I just feel good about him.

That soundtrack is perfect. The dude is sliiiick.

It's fine. Just leave it alone.

Hurney never got the memo. He was kind of the David Newton of GMs.

WG was highly regarded heading into the draft because he's a great guy and he interviewed well. It had very little to do with his skill as a QB. Everyone just liked the guy.

Took the words right out of my fingers

Thought these comments deserved its own thread.

Some serious overreacting to a thread trying to figure out who someone is. Y'all are just too much.

lol whoops

There are a good bit more than i thought who did it with their 2nd or third team as HC, but still the standard is within 5 years with the team they won the SB with. I don't care how much i like or the team likes rhule, if we don't have it done within 5 years, we need to move on and we should have moved on from both fox and rivera after 5.

i could understand him being on a leash for the first 2-3 years....but after that, it was all him. Unless he just couldn't be trusted to run the team after that then you have to wonder, why keep him at all? Sorry, I just don't buy the whole 'first time coach' argument/excuse for him. You can either do the job or you can't. There's no reason we should stick with any coach longer than 5 years if we haven't achieved success (meaning a ring) by then. Most HCs who win a Superbowl are able to win it with in their first gig as a HC and within 5 (typically within 3) years of their first year as HC with a team. Only exception in the last 25+years to it taking longer than 5 years as HC with their team being Bill Cowher.

Looks like someone had their Cheerios pissed in today.

Both peaked in the superbowl. Fox's team did make a game of it and dealt well with adversity. Rivera's team wasn't ready to handle it and couldn't adjust when they needed to. Rivera let the team get overwhelmed. Both coaches took a downward turn after the superbowl though. Fox let it go to his head and got stagnant real quick, seeing no need to improve. Rivera was in over his head from the beginning and were it not for Cam and Luke, would have never made it as far as he did.

It was more the rule than you realize. Fox was notorious for not exploiting other teams weaknesses, but the worst was his complete inability or unwillingness to adapt the gameplan when things went south. He was not a good game manager at all...but it could be argued he was better than Rivera. Even with that, they both sucked at that.

The better CBs won't always have much in the way of stats. If they shut their man down, they won't have many opportunities to get PDs and INTs.