rayzor

Seriously that's pathetic.

Sorry, my point was just that all QBs have things to work on and bad habits they pick up along the way that they were, for one reason or another, never quite coached on. In college, you might have had coaches with an NFL background, but you're in college and there's a limit to how much you can work with coaches. Coaches won't work on development like they do in the pros. They just don't have the time for it.

I'm hoping this is the next move.

Lol c'mon NBC...catch up

Vs. $30mil for one year and the same production?

Every QB has stuff to work on. None are perfect, not even the rookie god stroud.

We know that. That's history now. Why hang onto it? It does absolutely no good to dwell on that poo. The question is, what do we do to make it better aside from replacing Young? Because that ain't happening for a while. He's got work to do. It doesn't matter anymore that he shouldn't, he just does... again, hat like every other QB. Dies he have more to work on? It doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't do any good to be thinking about what could have been done differently or better.

getting excited or not is a personal choice. not getting excited makes it less fun to be a fan and if it's not fun then why do it...at least that's my personal take on it. i choose to get excited about it and not dwell on how things could fall apart. i'm just offering a different take than what had become the popular opinion that there's nothing to look forward to.

so some bad habits got picked up along the way or other things allowed to slide...i don't know. what's the big deal in saying that a new pro QB has some things that needs to be corrected?

they all come to the league needing some work. it's not a bad thing to recognize that and have to address it.

only experience i had living with one was a roommate had one as a puppy and it tore everything apart. of course he said he picked the most hyper one of the litter because he thought it meant it would be smarter. and then he left it inside for hours on end while he went to school, work, and then hung out with his fiance. i wasn't unhappy when he got married and moved out with the dog. i'm sure others have had a better experience than me.

oh no. someone is mocking me. my self esteem suffers.

lol who is amped up over the guy? i think he's a solid addition and could be exactly what we've been needing. am i crowning him an all-pro or any such nonsense? no. i just think that he's worth a shot and until he starts showing his ass and becoming a problem, i'm going to be giving him the benefit of the doubt. is that too amped up for you? some people just need a scene change. that could be this guy. or he could just be a problem wherever he goes. until he is a problem, though, he's not. no point in getting worked up over a potential cancer until he starts doing some damage. no point in worrying about it because there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. so why not wait and see?

Because he may not have had coaching from professional coaches? i don't know and i don't know how rudimentary the teaching is, but i do know that it's open to interpretation based on what canales is saying and it's very easy to make the jump to he's having to be retaught everything from the very start for someone who thinks he's a garbage QB anyways. every QB can be and should be taught and retaught some fundamentals from time to time to get them back on track when some bad habits have formed over time.

he would be a good option....if he can stay healthy, which i don't think anyone is sure he can. they are probably following his progress and i think they would love the fact that he isn't just good at the whole center thing, but he has worked along side hunt. wouldn't be bad to have him paired up again. i just wouldn't want to have to rely on him. he might be an after draft guy if we don't get one there that looks like he could start.

i do think we will either see significant growth or not and if not then we need to be moving on. he doesn't have to be the whole package this year, just a lot better than last year. but if we keep seeing the same thing, just do like we did with burns this year and take our medicine and move on.

the (bad) luck we've had with perpetually injured players over the years has e hitting the brakes with this one. i love the potential havoc he can bring. i hate the potential to get and stay hurt.

or just these people who haven't made up their minds on BY and want to see if a new coaching staff and rebuilt scheme and offense around him can make something happen. we're working with incomplete information due to an incompetent staff and hoping that this year it will be better.

he was a hot name at the time. tepper likes his hot names.

i think the coaching staff was oblivious to everything. they got caught up in this idea that Bryce was a "ready to go in all regards on day one" type QB. They had unrealistic expectations, thinking that he would be able to manage everything from the field. they saw him as a rookie with a vet's mind and did nothing to help develop, largely because they were so focused on the ideal of him than the reality of him. i still believe that he can be a really good QB...maybe even elite some day. but that potential is/was there for baker, darnold, and so many other failed really early picks. teams (and fans) had unrealistic expectations for what they believed an early pick QB could or should be and they were set up for failure. it's not that they weren't capable of succeeding, they were put into crappy situations where they couldn't get the developmental coaching they needed and should have been given. you work around what you actually have, not what you think you have or should have gotten. you are drafting a kid who has a lot of growing to do in all regards. you draft based on potential and then you focus all your energy into helping him grow into that potential. no QB entering the league should be expected to be ready day 1 without a poo ton of work put in ahead of time and even then there should be given an allowance for unforeseen issues that need to be addressed and everything you do in building an offense around a QB you plan to have leading your franchise should make the transition to the pro game easier for him by having an uncomplicated offense, solid run game to rely heavily on, and an OL to protect him. To expect any QB to jump in and run an offense like an old pro in his first year is just unrealistic.

i will say that when i watched his "highlights" from last year i came away bored and i'm not sure i even made t through them, but a lot of that just has to do with just the absolute clusterf*ck last season was...and that he contributed to. i was underwhelmed, but i still just don't think that last year told us much about what he's capable or not capable of. i think what it did effectively do is put Bryce in the worst possible situations and overall just did a great job of showing where he needs work. nothing was hidden and all limitations were exposed. this year. we are banking on 3 things: 1) that Canales can show Bryce a better way of doing QB 2) that canales can build an offense around what Bryce can do as an improved version of himself, 3) that bryce can make whatever adjustments need to be made to become that improved version of himself. is it work that we should have to do for a QB we sold the farm for? right now, that's just a question that doesn't matter. it's hindsight. what matters isn't what we should have done. what matters is what can be done now with who we have and i think everyone would benefit from having an open mind about it and just watch and see when we've got something to watch and see. at this point in the season, all we've got are words and the laying out of a plan to deal with Bryce. Again, should we have to work hard to come up with a plan to deal with Bryce? Again, it's a question that doesn't matter at the moment. We've got who we've got and we've got the situation we've got and we just have to hope that Canales can get it worked out, because the alternative is another few years of poo.

this is something that should have been addressed last year and maybe would have if the coaching staff wasn't more involved in whatever pissing match they had going on with each other. listening to canales, it just seems like he has so much more knowledge about what can and needs to be done with any QB than we got from any of our "dream team coaching staff" from last year.

but you also don't expect your QB1 that you gave up the farm for being on a team that has the most dysfunctional coaching staff and a HC that gets fired 11 games into their first season because no one on the coaching staff could agree on anything pertaining to the offense or the QB. and for ANY QB taken at any point in the draft, in his first year or two you want to have a system that makes it easier for the QB to acclimate where the OL is stout and the run game is strong. you need to give your QB1 early on a chance to grow without being forced into some high powered passing offense because you NEVER know for sure just what all needs to be worked out until you see them in action and you discover what can be done and what needs helped in your pro offense. i think people just have some unrealistic expectations and standards for a rookie taken in the first round, especially first overall.

i think reich wanted carr. reich is an old dog (not "dawg") who just wasn't interested in learning any new tricks or teaching any. i agree with just about everything else. there was too much bad poo going on around the whole situation to properly evaluate and develop any rookie QB. and yes, a #1 overall pick or any rookie QB will have to have things worked on and thinking they shouldn't is just not an opinion based on reality. and thinking we saw enough last year from BY to think he's garbage is just as narrow minded, but whatever... this year we will see what he can do and where he can or can't grow. last year was a throw away year except in giving Canales tape to see what they can work on.

They are typically mindless fans. People with homer glasses on will think every player on the roster is awesome, every acquisition was genius, and every loss of a player was the best move because they weren't that great anyways. Steeler fans are the cowboy fans of the north. I wouldn't exactly consider them and their opinions of any former or current player as objective at all.