A little insight on the Hakeem Nicks story

[TheRed]

Is there anything to back it up?  As mentioned, Nicks can say anything he wants since the Panthers don't discuss contract details.

 

Remember, it was also Nicks who said that Dave Gettleman suggested this wasn't the best spot for him.

 

So you are suggesting that he is a liar? That's pretty absurd Mr. Scot.

 

The lengths to which some will go to make Gettleman look better are truly astounding.

[Mr. Scot]

So you are suggesting that he is a liar? That's pretty absurd Mr. Scot.

 

The lengths to which some will go to make Gettleman look better are truly astounding.

 

I'm asking if there's any corroboration to his statements.

 

is there?

[TheRed]

I'm asking if there's any corroboration to his statements.

 

is there?

 

Why does there need to be? You either believe him or you don't. Personally I have no reason to believe that he was being untruthful.

[TheRed]

So because someone says something that you don't particularly like, your first response is to call them a liar?

 

That's nice Mr. Scot, real nice.

[Mr. Scot]

Why does there need to be? You either believe him or you don't. Personally I have no reason to believe that he was being untruthful.

 

He wouldn't be the first guy to claim he turned down a big offer out of pride, when in reality the offer was either minimal or nothing.

 

Bottom Line: Conflicting stories at the time and the Panthers won't say, so that's all there is.

 

 

So because someone says something that you don't particularly like, your first response is to call them a liar?

 

That's nice Mr. Scot, real nice.

 

Nicks never actually said anything that I "didn't like".  I was one of the people that didn't really care that much whether we signed him or not.   

 

As I recall, you were one of the people who was actually against us signing him.  But now that he's gone elsewhere you want to pound Gettleman for it.

 

So which is it?

[csx]

What difference does it make? It was clearly something both the team and Nicks considered....beyond that it's irrelevant now.

[TheRed]

He wouldn't be the first guy to claim he turned down a big offer out of pride, when in reality the offer was either minimal or nothing.

 

Bottom Line: Conflicting stories at the time and the Panthers won't say, so that's all there is.

 

 

 

Nicks never actually said anything that I "didn't like".  I was one of the people that didn't really care that much whether we signed him or not.   

 

As I recall, you were one of the people who was actually against us signing him.  But now that he's gone elsewhere you want to pound Gettleman for it.

 

So which is it?

 

I was against signing him to a big contract, that was before we cleared out our entire WR corps. When his value began to drop, and the only receivers we had on our roster were McNutt and King, yes I was fine with the idea of bringing him in on a reasonable contract.

 

Nobody is "pounding" Gettleman here. Good grief.

[Mr. Scot]

I was against signing him to a big contract, that was before we cleared out our entire WR corps. When his value began to drop, and the only receivers we had on our roster were McNutt and King, yes I was fine with the idea of bringing him in on a reasonable contract.

 

Nobody is "pounding" Gettleman here. Good grief.

 

But I'm "going to great lengths to make him look better" right? :lol:

 

I have no personal feelings about Gettleman at all, but I do agree with the majority of the decisions he's made and I can see the rationale behind most of what he does.  A large part of that is probably because I'm a little older than many on here, so I'm used to being patient and waiting for things to develop.  That, plus what I've learned about football didn't come from playing 'Madden'.

 

We've had some utter ridiculousness this offseason on this board, primarily over the Steve Smith thing, and some folks chose to run around screaming panic.  Those of us who didn't get accused of silliness like being Gettleman homers, when in reality we prefer the term 'adults'.

[TheRed]

But I'm "going to great lengths to make him look better" right? :lol:

 

I have no personal feelings about Gettleman at all, but I do agree with the majority of the decisions he's made and I can see the rationale behind most of what he does.  A large part of that is probably because I'm a little older than many on here, so I'm used to being patient and waiting for things to develop.  That, plus what I've learned about football didn't come from playing 'Madden'.

 

We've had some utter ridiculousness this offseason on this board, primarily over the Steve Smith thing, and some folks chose to run around screaming panic.  Those of us who didn't get accused of silliness like being Gettleman homers, when in reality we prefer the term 'adults'.

 

Randomly insinuating that someone you've never met is a liar based on absolutely nothing doesn't quality as "going to great lengths"?

[Mr. Scot]

Randomly insinuating that someone you've never met is a liar based on absolutely nothing doesn't quality as "going to great lengths"?

 

Nope.  Not at all :D

 

But for the record, did I actually do that, or is that just your spin on it while playing your usual 'contrarian' role?

 

For reference, here's what I actually said...

 

(assumptions are) probably all we'll ever have.

 

At the time, there were stories that we'd made an offer and others that said we had no interest.  No way to know what was really true.

 

The Panthers don't discuss contracts or contract offers.  Nicks could say we lowballed him or say we offered him the moon and there'd be no way to corroborate either story.

 

Speculation is all we've got.  But hey, it's a message board...

 

"Great lengths"?  Yeah, sure :lol:

[TheRed]

I'm asking if there's any corroboration to his statements.

 

is there?

 

Hey what's this here. Not trying to call him a liar or anything, just get his mom, his pastor, and his brother to confirm his story. Geesh.

[Mr. Scot]

Hey what's this here.

 

I like to call it "a question".

 

If you look back at the statement quoted in the prior post, you'll see it fits in nicely.

 

It's usually responded to with an answer (the correct one this time being "no") but yuo chose to go a different route.

[TheRed]

I like to call it "a question".

 

If you look back at the statement quoted in the prior post, you'll see it fits in nicely.

 

I can't hear your voice over the sound of you backpedaling. What's that?

[Mr. Scot]

I can't hear your voice over the sound of you backpedaling. What's that?

 

Backpedaling...yeah :lol:

 

Still stand by everything I've said, but thanks for illustrating that it's easier to argue with someone's statements when you misrepresent them.