I know its a bit Early to talk Giants, But What Are Your Early Thoughts on this Matchup ?

[Pup McBarky]

1 hour ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Seahawks are ranked lower according to PFF. So..............

And CMC's grade was lower than Gio Bernard's and Cam's was lower than Dalton's according to PFF. So..........

[JakeDel5674]

42 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

And CMC's grade was lower than Gio Bernard's and Cam's was lower than Dalton's according to PFF. So..........

I believe their O-Line rankings over individual rankings. How else are we going to rate Offensive Lines? The eye test? LOL, no. 

[Pup McBarky]

3 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I believe their O-Line rankings over individual rankings. How else are we going to rate Offensive Lines? The eye test? LOL, no. 

Compare their performances against common opponents. How did each line fare against Dallas?

[JakeDel5674]

1 hour ago, Pup McBarky said:

Compare their performances against common opponents. How did each line fare against Dallas?

That's your comparison. That's so weak. Let's compare them to the Texans too. Because the Giants looked almighty vs the Texans. And they have Watt & Clowney. So..............................

[fjblair]

My early thoughts are that the Giants are bad and if Panthers don't win then they poo the bed.

[Pup McBarky]

2 hours ago, JakeDel5674 said:

That's your comparison. That's so weak. Let's compare them to the Texans too. Because the Giants looked almighty vs the Texans. And they have Watt & Clowney. So..............................

Common opponents. Do try and keep up.

[Pup McBarky]

49 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Hard to judge on 1 game. Do you think Minnesota is better than Baltimore? Common opponent Buffalo says Baltimore would beat Minnesota by 60. Let’s just say that both struggle at OL but with the FA signing and rookie, I’d have to think the Giants have a slightly better OL.

It absolutely is. As I said in another thread, ratings/rankings at this time of year are barely better than pre-season ratings. My point is that with very little evidence, the best we can do is compare how they do against common opponents - and that doesn't tell us much. In my opinion, that's certainly no worse than PFF.

And FWIW, while the comparison doesn't tell us much, I do think comparing the OL vs. DL tells us more than team vs. team. And we'll just have to agree to disagree about the OL's of those two teams. I happen to think Seattle's is better, but not significantly so. And the next few weeks may prove me wrong.

[JakeDel5674]

22 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

It absolutely is. As I said in another thread, ratings/rankings at this time of year are barely better than pre-season ratings. My point is that with very little evidence, the best we can do is compare how they do against common opponents - and that doesn't tell us much. In my opinion, that's certainly no worse than PFF.

And FWIW, while the comparison doesn't tell us much, I do think comparing the OL vs. DL tells us more than team vs. team. And we'll just have to agree to disagree about the OL's of those two teams. I happen to think Seattle's is better, but not significantly so. And the next few weeks may prove me wrong.

I did keep up. That's like saying the Lions are better than the Patriots. It's a horrible argument. It's like saying Old Dominion will have better season than Virginia Tech. Because of one game. It's absurd really. 

PFF is a lot better for offensive line in regards to assessment than other thing we have. Basically, you're LITERALLY going off an eye test. Which is dumber than fug. 

[JakeDel5674]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Hard to judge on 1 game. Do you think Minnesota is better than Baltimore? Common opponent Buffalo says Baltimore would beat Minnesota by 60. Let’s just say that both struggle at OL but with the FA signing and rookie, I’d have to think the Giants have a slightly better OL. 

Yeah man, you can use so many examples on how that's a horrible argument it's ridiculous. 

[Pup McBarky]

4 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

That's like saying the Lions are better than the Patriots. It's a horrible argument. It's like saying Old Dominion will have better season than Virginia Tech. Because of one game. It's absurd really. 

Yeah, it's not like that at all.