Baldy Breakdown of Cam & CMC vs Bengals

[KB_fan]

1 minute ago, Hoenheim said:

Best thing is about CMC this season is the insane difference in yards per carry compared to the first quarter of last season, he mightve been sub 3.0 ypc at that point. Of course though, worse oline and Shula weren't helping him. 

Yeah, been wanting to look up his stats from this time last year but haven't had a chance. IIRC he was near the bottom of the league in terms of either/ both yards before contact and yards after contact. Now he's among league leaders in both!

Too tired to look up tonight. Maybe I will find time tomorrow, but I'll be out of the office / away from my computer for much of the day in various meetings.

[Keep Pounding]

3 hours ago, yayfootball said:

So I don't know if PFF classifies runs the same way, but I looked at the play-by-play for the CIN game on Pro Football Reference. Here's an example of what I found:

1	6:10	2	10	CAR 36	Christian McCaffrey left tackle for 13 yards (tackle by Jordan Evans)

This is the run that refers to:

This play does start going outside to the left with the center and left tackle pulling, but by the time McCaffrey crosses the line of scrimmage, he's to the right of the right guard. In the end, the left tackle's block is basically irrelevant on this play. So even as the season progresses and sample size start getting larger, the interpretation of the numbers is not so clear. The simple interpretation of numbers like these that you tend to see in the media is that if runs to one side are gaining a lot of yards then that side of the line must be blocking well, and you could make a case for that if you sorted runs by where the runner actually turned upfield. But if runs are sorted the way this one is, the picture is more complicated.

The defense over pursued, imo our OLine didn’t block good. CMC with great vision bounced back opposite side run was designed to go, ended up making a great run out of a blown up play. Cincy Def allowed CMC opportunity to make that play. 

[yayfootball]

9 minutes ago, Keep Pounding said:

The defense over pursued, imo our OLine didn’t block good. CMC with great vision bounced back opposite side run was designed to go, ended up making a great run out of a blown up play. Cincy Def allowed CMC opportunity to make that play. 

While I would agree that no one does anything spectacular on this play, everyone does their job (except for Kalil, who trips and falls). They don't allow penetration and force the Bengals to move laterally to avoid giving up the edge. The one Bengals linebacker who is free definitely could have played it better, but this was blocked well enough to still be a 4 or 5 yard run.

This kind of play is designed with the cutback in mind, so I wouldn't call this spectacular by McCaffrey either. In fact, I think he cuts it back a little too far. It looks like he would have done better to stay in between Larsen and Moton. It's still a good run, but I wouldn't call it great. This play is a good example of the power of teamwork: if everyone is good, no one has to be great, and you can still make a big play.

[bigdavis]

Those 2 stiff-arms (on 1 play) brought back fond memories of JStew.  He was considered, in his prime, to be a powerful tackle breaker, and IIRC was #1 for 2 years in a row at yds gained after contact.

And here we see his rebirth, only as a better pass catcher, on top.

Turner's intelligent use of this valuable asset will win us a lot of games.

[DaveThePanther2008]

18 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

He flat ran over Hardy Nickerson. Anyone who had any doubts about his "between the tackles" ability should just watch that clip over and over.

The Hardy Nickerson play is a statement by CMC.  One on One he destroyed Nickerson.  The best part was Nickerson wasn't being blocked, his vision wasn't impeded and was in perfect form to stop CMC yet got blown up. 

Norv will have him over 1000 yds by end of season Rushing alone. Throw in catches out of the backfield he'll break 2K total yards.