Do the Panthers need a new stadium?

[mj4life]

They put up the money for the infrastructure (streets, water lines, ect.) Richardson bought the land.

the city still owns the land they lease it to the richardsons real cheap

[Anybodyhome]

I agree regarding the "investment" risk.

I point out, though, that the Panthers honor the amount you PAID for your current PSL, not the "value" of that PSL toward an upgrade. I paid $3900 for mine, which the Panthers now value at $15,000. They won't credit me with $15,000 toward an upgrade.

Where did you find a "current value" for your PSLs? Unless the Panthers are selling the PSL's to the seats directly next to you for $15k, I don't understand how they value them that high. As a matter of fact there are many PSLs being sold today at the stadium for less than what I paid way back when.

[PantherFanOne]

In my opinion the stadium is good for at least another 15-20 years.We can worry and be concerned about that then.

Meanwhile,let's just feel fortunate that we have an NFL team and stadium and enjoy them to the utmost.

[CosmoGirl]

What about those of us who bought our PSLs from someone besides the Panthers?

[ckad79]

They will not get tax money to build another stadium. If they do, a mob will hunt down the city leaders and skin them alive. Hard to justify a stadium when we have to lay off 500 teachers.

I love how people somehow feel that they can tell the owner to pay for it himself or get lost. Like that's ever worked! haha

People can whine all they want about tax money and how tax money is used, but if Detroit - which is pretty much poverty stricken - can use enough tax money to fund a new stadium, what makes Charlotte think its any different?

This is the pro and cons of pro sports in America. If you don't want to spend your tax money on stadiums, fine... The team will go to another city that will. The Hornets left Charlotte for New Orleans, because Shinn got tired of asking for the city to PAY for an arena. If Richardson has to beg and nobody agrees, don't be shocked if he packs up and goes to L.A., if L.A. is willing to hand him a check without whining!!

Pro sports is a business. If they can get a stadium built for free in one city, you better have something to offer them that the other place can't. haha

As far as this talk, I agree it's a little early but whose to say that 10-15 years from now, Bank of America Stadium won't be obsolete? As pro sports continue to grow and salaries rise, the importance of luxury boxes and club seats will change.

You either grow with changing times or you'll be left in the dust.

[Panthers_Lover]

Where did you find a "current value" for your PSLs? Unless the Panthers are selling the PSL's to the seats directly next to you for $15k, I don't understand how they value them that high. As a matter of fact there are many PSLs being sold today at the stadium for less than what I paid way back when.

http://www.panthers.com/tickets/season/financing-and-diagram.html

This is what the Panthers sell them for, if they have them available. There are very few in my category (I'm in section 135) available. On the open market, it's different, of course.

[Panthers_Lover]

What about those of us who bought our PSLs from someone besides the Panthers?

I wondered that myself, but I think what they mean is what the original PSL price was. Not what it says on the upgrade request form, though ... it says what you paid for the PSL. Might quibble about that one, if I were a second owner.

[Squirrel]

I wondered that myself, but I think what they mean is what the original PSL price was. Not what it says on the upgrade request form, though ... it says what you paid for the PSL. Might quibble about that one, if I were a second owner.

Thing is the Panthers charge $3000 for upper level seats so whatever they charge should be the base price for all those in that price bracket.

[Anybodyhome]

"This is what the Panthers sell them for, if they have them available. There are very few in my category (I'm in section 135) available. On the open market, it's different, of course."

You're one of the few sections where PSL prices have escalated that much. I'm also on the lower level, but the PSLs in my area have yet to double what we paid in 1994.

"I wondered that myself, but I think what they mean is what the original PSL price was. Not what it says on the upgrade request form, though ... it says what you paid for the PSL. Might quibble about that one, if I were a second owner."

If you purchased them legitimately from an owner and paid the $200 per ticket admin/transfer fee to the organization to put the PSLs in your name, they are valued at what a comparable PSL was priced when you bought yours.

"Thing is the Panthers charge $3000 for upper level seats so whatever they charge should be the base price for all those in that price bracket."

Thing is, a lot of upper level PSLs were priced as much as 24% higher back in 1994-97 than they are now. A lot of people with upper level PSLs actually lost money and are justifiably pissed they paid more for their PSLs than some other folks.

[Skew]

the city still owns the land they lease it to the richardsons real cheap

No, Richardson bought the land. Someone in my family sold part of it to them.

[ConCity]

Richardson needs to buy all the crap business around the stadium and clear it. SO we can have a huge parking lot and awesome tailgating space! i get so jelous when i see lambeu field and others with massive open parking lots and tons of fans all together cookin' up that goodness!

[CLTPanther]

I love how people somehow feel that they can tell the owner to pay for it himself or get lost. Like that's ever worked! haha

People can whine all they want about tax money and how tax money is used, but if Detroit - which is pretty much poverty stricken - can use enough tax money to fund a new stadium, what makes Charlotte think its any different?

This is the pro and cons of pro sports in America. If you don't want to spend your tax money on stadiums, fine... The team will go to another city that will. The Hornets left Charlotte for New Orleans, because Shinn got tired of asking for the city to PAY for an arena. If Richardson has to beg and nobody agrees, don't be shocked if he packs up and goes to L.A., if L.A. is willing to hand him a check without whining!!

Pro sports is a business. If they can get a stadium built for free in one city, you better have something to offer them that the other place can't. haha

As far as this talk, I agree it's a little early but whose to say that 10-15 years from now, Bank of America Stadium won't be obsolete? As pro sports continue to grow and salaries rise, the importance of luxury boxes and club seats will change.

You either grow with changing times or you'll be left in the dust.

This isn't 2002. If he has any economic advisores they'll tell him not to ask for taxpayer money. That would be a huge PR mistake. And Detroit is hardly a city to brag about.

[Fiz]

No, Richardson bought the land. Someone in my family sold part of it to them.

And they got a sweetheart deal on it.

It doesn't really matter though because the land was basically worthless but still it was well below market value.

[Squirrel]

And they got a sweetheart deal on it.

It doesn't really matter though because the land was basically worthless but still it was well below market value.

If it wasnt for the stadium the area around it wouldnt be what it is today. Yeah they only pay $1 a year but the return outways that.