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If first round QBs are "destined busts" as people like to refer them to...


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why the fug am i watching 2 first round QB picks in the AFC championship game?

and, by extension...

why the fug has a team with a first round QB won the superbowl the past 3 years?

Just another aspect of the game Fox likes to look at with a closed mind and what player was most responsible for our meltdown in AZ?

you can't win the big one with a closed mind.

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Idk but I watched a undrafted free agent win the NFC championship game with a first round quarterback holding his clipboard.

just saying

Warner is one in a million.

take QB production return pctg and compare it to the return production of any other position draft pick in the league and I bet you the bust rate will be at least the same.

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Warner is one in a million.

take QB production return pctg and compare it to the return production of any other position draft pick in the league and I bet you the bust rate will be at least the same.

Problem is you have to invest a first round draft pick and sign a multi year contract at ~14 mil a year to find out if yours is a bust or not.

Then if he isnt that good you end up with a 14 mil a year backup.

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With The Golden Calf of Bristol, Bradford and other QUALITY QB's comming out after next season, we might just have An EXELLENT chance to go get our future QB .... Matter of fact I HOPE WE DO!

We would have to go 2-14 to get Bradford, I like The Golden Calf of Bristol as Hoovers replacement.

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Problem is you have to invest a first round draft pick and sign a multi year contract at ~14 mil a year to find out if yours is a bust or not.

Then if he isnt that good you end up with a 14 mil a year backup.

yea but when has a team ever made it, or a person ever made "it" in life in general, by not taking risks?

Lest we forget the last time Fox took a chance on an unproven QB it payed dividends for us. That's why he was so successful at first. Because he had the balls to take risks, and he was pretty damn good at it too. Now, please, god forbid we try anything different to get a one up on the other guy.

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yea but when has a team ever made it, or a person ever made "it" in life in general, by not taking risks?

Lest we forget the last time Fox took a chance on an unproven QB it payed dividends for us. That's why he was so successful at first. Because he had the balls to take risks, and he was pretty damn good at it too. Now, please, god forbid we try anything different to get a one up on the other guy.

Calculated risk is the smart thing to go for.

If Delhomme didn't work out we were out of chump change.

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With The Golden Calf of Bristol, Bradford and other QUALITY QB's comming out after next season, we might just have An EXELLENT chance to go get our future QB .... Matter of fact I HOPE WE DO!

The Golden Calf of Bristol reminds me of a QB that ten years ago would be so highly heralded with his "dual threat" capabilities and would be a sure no.1 pick.

Josh Freeman's on my radar. He looks reachable from where we pick now, and the guy's got a hell of an arm on the run, plus he's elusive while passing.

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why the f*ck am i watching 2 first round QB picks in the AFC championship game?

and, by extension...

why the f*ck has a team with a first round QB won the superbowl the past 3 years?

Just another aspect of the game Fox likes to look at with a closed mind and what player was most responsible for our meltdown in AZ?

you can't win the big one with a closed mind.

It's just a Myth, the issue with it is they can be COSTLY busts, and a huge waste of time.

If your coaches know what they are doing *knock on wood* those chances become even less that they will be a bust.

2010 would be a great year for us to start though.

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