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Draft X they said!!

Jaxel

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Having your roster mainly made up of your own draft picks is highly desirable and a sign of success in the organization. If you HONESTLY think our 2-14 record is attributable more to our draft picks than to Fox, JR, Veteran purge, lack of FA spending, horrible OC, etc then you're blind.

You have absolutely no facts supporting your theory it's a "sign of success in the organization". None whatsoever. Zero.

You know what I have to support my theory that it either doesn't mean a damn thing or is actually detrimental to the team? A little fact I like to call 2-14.

Also, I like how you say that having a ton of picks on the team is a sign of success and then attribute our record to not spending on free agents. You realize that if we had just done what actually successful teams do and sign free agents then we wouldn't have had as many draft picks on the roster right?

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I know more than a few folks wanted Mike Williams. I also know i liked Emmanuel Sanders, Taylor Price, and Shipley. It's comparing apples and oranges though. Like a previous responder said Gilyard and Tate did not get the targets our guys did. That said lets talk about this in a couple seasons. Patting ourselves on the back for drafting Gettis and Lafell is premature.

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You have absolutely no facts supporting your theory it's a "sign of success in the organization". None whatsoever. Zero.

You know what I have to support my theory that it either doesn't mean a damn thing or is actually detrimental to the team? A little fact I like to call 2-14.

Also, I like how you say that having a ton of picks on the team is a sign of success and then attribute our record to not spending on free agents. You realize that if we had just done what actually successful teams do and sign free agents then we wouldn't have had as many draft picks on the roster right?

Wtf? Do you think it's a bad thing when an organization drafts players that work in the system that can fulfill the roles they are drafted for? Or is it, on the other hand, a sign of success when none of your draft picks work out and you have to load your team with free agents?

Also, I like how you ignored all the other reasons I gave that are all very legitimate and tried to take one and somehow argue that I'm contradicting myself. I'm not. Regardless of how successful you are in the draft, you will always have needs that you have to address in free agency. We didn't do that. The ideal team is made up mainly of your own draft picks and you fill it in with quality free agents as necessary.

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Wtf? Do you think it's a bad thing when an organization drafts players that work in the system that can fulfill the roles they are drafted for? Or is it, on the other hand, a sign of success when none of your draft picks work out and you have to load your team with free agents?

Also, I like how you ignored all the other reasons I gave that are all very legitimate and tried to take one and somehow argue that I'm contradicting myself. I'm not. Regardless of how successful you are in the draft, you will always have needs that you have to address in free agency. We didn't do that. The ideal team is made up mainly of your own draft picks and you fill it in with quality free agents as necessary.

Did our draft picks "work out" when we have a team made of virtually nothing but draft picks and we went 2-14?

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Also, how about this stat? No team in the league was composed of a team's draft picks more than the Panthers were this season. And that team filled with nothing but Hurney draft picks went 2-14, worst record in football.

Let's check out this logical progression.

1. No team in the league was more composed of their own drafts picks than the Panthers.

2. The Panthers went 2-14.

3. Therefore, the Panthers went 2-14 because no team in the league was more composed of their own draft picks than the Panthers.

The conclusion does not follow the premises. How do you get 3 from 1 and 2? There were a myriad of other factors contributing to our terrible season, not the least of which being our lameduck coaching staff and our owner's penny-pinching mentality. How can you ignore all of those other factors and make it exclusively Hurney's fault?

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And this: 1. No team in the league was more composed of their own drafts picks than the Panthers.

2. The Panthers went 2-14.

3. Therefore, the Panthers went 2-14 because no team in the league was more composed of their own draft picks than the Panthers.

makes a lot more sense than

1. No team in the league was more composed of their own drafts picks than the Panthers.

2. The Panthers went 2-14.

3. There is absolutely no correlation between these two points and having a team composed of your own picks is actually a sign of great success!

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And this: 1. No team in the league was more composed of their own drafts picks than the Panthers.

2. The Panthers went 2-14.

3. Therefore, the Panthers went 2-14 because no team in the league was more composed of their own draft picks than the Panthers.

makes a lot more sense than

1. No team in the league was more composed of their own drafts picks than the Panthers.

2. The Panthers went 2-14.

3. There is absolutely no correlation between these two points and having a team composed of your own picks is actually a sign of great success!

So teams like the Steelers and the Pats who prefer to build through the draft aren't doing it better than teams like the Skins who build through FA?

And...it's better when a team doesn't draft well so they have to sign a bunch of FA's rather than building their core through the draft and developing their own players from the start of their careers?

Oh, and, the lameduck coaching staff, no-spending ownership, pathetic offensive coordination, purging of veteran players, regression by Matt Moore, and underachievement by veterans (e.g. O-line) had nothing to do with our 2-14 record, right? It was all the fact that we have a bunch of draft picks on the roster instead of free agents?

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