Nick Fairley vs Glen Dorsey

[ZedLeppelin]

If I see this comparison made one more time I'm going to puke. Fairley obliterated the SEC this year, Glen Dorsey was never close to as dominant in college as Fairley was this year. Dorsey was extremely hyped based on high school rankings and percieved talent but he never really produced that much. Fairley was a 3 star out of high school and even though both Bama and FSU wanted him badly he elected to go to JC. He redshirted his first year there, destroyed JC in his second year then transferred to Auburn and struggled with the transition his first year before making adjustments and applying himself fully and destroying everyone this past year.

Glen Dorsey at LSU:

freshman year: 2 TFL 0 sacks

soph: 4 TFL 3 sacks

junior: 8.5 TFL 3 sacks

senior:12.5 TFL 7 sacks

Nick Fairley this past year:

24 TFL 11.5 sacks

Hes not Suh but who is? Suh is a once in a generation type like Reggie White at DE and LT at linebacker but Fairley can be everybit as good as Harris, Ngata, Jenkins in his prime and Stroud in his prime. Hes a better prospect then McCoy, while McCoy is a very good prospect he never dominated in college like Fairley did this past year

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

You cannot base a prospect on statistics alone. That proves nothing. Most of the time he was unblocked based on an option read, etc. I like the kid, could be a great pick. But my point being, stats prove nothing.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Interesting that you left out Fairley's 1 sack season last year. (Or any other season stat)

Agenda much?

[Urrymonster]

Interesting that you left out Fairley's 1 sack season last year. (Or any other season stat)

Agenda much?

Mainly because he wasn't given much playing time at all. When someone transfers they don't always go straight into the starting lineup due to existing players on the team.

His '08 season was pretty darn good as well.

[MHS831]

Mainly because he wasn't given much playing time at all. When someone transfers they don't always go straight into the starting lineup due to existing players on the team.

His '08 season was pretty darn good as well.

Fairley's positives: He has a quick step, he has good hands, good instincts, plays with a chip on his shoulder, high motor, good pass rusher.

Fairley's question marks: Purely a three-technique because he does not have a lot of film drawing double teams like Dareus did. Can he play a 2 gap role?

Green's positives: Height, speed, hands, route running, jumping and hands again.

Green's question marks: How well will he beat the jam? How much will we hate watching Sports Center if we don't take him?

Fairley is awesome, but I think we need a 1 technique more than a 3, especially if RR shows some 3-4 looks. He is a risk there. Green has less risk because his skill set is incredible. I know this is not about Green, but the Green supporters chimed in. If we draft Fairley, I figure we finally get the push up the middle on the pass rush.

[RockyTopVol]

People forget that Dorsey is playing out of position right now in his 3-4. Still, he's doing an alright job where he is. Since he hasn't had a year like Suh had this year, people seem to want to dog on Dorsey. I still think the guy is good.

[Urrymonster]

Fairley's positives: He has a quick step, he has good hands, good instincts, plays with a chip on his shoulder, high motor, good pass rusher.

Fairley's question marks: Purely a three-technique because he does not have a lot of film drawing double teams like Dareus did. Can he play a 2 gap role?

Green's positives: Height, speed, hands, route running, jumping and hands again.

Green's question marks: How well will he beat the jam? How much will we hate watching Sports Center if we don't take him?

Fairley is awesome, but I think we need a 1 technique more than a 3, especially if RR shows some 3-4 looks. He is a risk there. Green has less risk because his skill set is incredible. I know this is not about Green, but the Green supporters chimed in. If we draft Fairley, I figure we finally get the push up the middle on the pass rush.

I actually completely disagree. 3 technique is FAR more important as we got next to no pressure last year from the DT position.

I personally think that Fairley is more of a Sedrick Ellis comparison in his quick burst and closing speed, also both were renowned as being high motor guys. Neither are considered anything more than 1 gap DTs. Damione Lewis is another example.

Whilst these DTs are fundamentally one dimensional, most defensive schemes absolutely require pressure up the middle. Our DEs have shown they are capable enough of getting to the QB through effort alone, if there was someone else providing pressure up the middle then we could have a MUCH more aggressive secondary.

In a 4-3 the gap space eaters are a bit easier to find and we actually have a couple of usable ones on the roster already.

[iiCaRoLiNa]

Remember Dorsey also plays in a 3-4. A DE in the 3-4 must have gap control. He CAN NOT go upfield. You must understand. Dorsey is a very fine player. His numbers may not show. But I believe his teams winning record did. When i ask you to name 3 players on the KC defense I think of 4 (derrick johnson but Ive known of him for a while) I think Eric Berry, Tyson Jackson, and Glenn Dorsey. Fairly is going to get to have funn. It would be nice if fairly could become a Run stopper with 6 sacks. I would love a DT with 6 sacks. Suh is a boss. But if Fairley can take 2 defenders and Charles johnson is on the outside and with Hardy or Brown to step up. I think hardy. He has alot of upside.

[diegosimbron2010]

Stats in college don't mean anything.

e.g. 2000 NFL Draft

GP Comp Att % Yds TD INT RAT

Chad Pennington 44 1060 1619 65.8 13,143 115 45 151.1

4 yrs in Marshall

18th overall pick

Tom Brady GP Comp Att % Yds TD INT RAT

4 yrs in Michigan 41 443 711 65.9 5,351 35 19 118.8

199th overall pick

[mmmbeans]

pennington's stats didn't show that he was going to almost get his arm ripped off 3 times.