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Today's "Oh You Thought The Lockout Was Almost Over? Well..." News

Proudiddy

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carpanfan96 Grand Master

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Now they are saying that they must recertify the union to vote....and that it will take 2 weeks to get all of the cards signed and back in.

Pathetic attempt at stalling by the players. We all know they hate the preseason and don't actually get paid for it....they get reg season game checks. Shorten the pre-season and they are happy.

Not quite, it's been known they would have to vote to re certify the union and that it would take a while to do so. That's always been one of the keys steps to getting the league back up and running. The only way the NFLPA can vote on the CBA formally is to re certify.

They can do it quickly by doing a mass conference call, which I believe was the plan for today if the two sides got everything ironed out in time.

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I been watching NFL network Live Report all day. D. Smith just came out and had a press conference and from the looks of things this dont look good. The Players have the final say if we have a CBA but they have to go back to been a Union. This could take along time. We might not get a deal into probably next week if we are lucky and one side dont piss off the other. I just hope this poo dont blow up because if it does we might could lose the whole pre season and part of the regular season.

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I been watching NFL network Live Report all day. D. Smith just came out and had a press conference and from the looks of things this dont look good. The Players have the final say if we have a CBA but they have to go back to been a Union. This could take along time. We might not get a deal into probably next week if we are lucky and one side dont piss off the other. I just hope this poo dont blow up because if it does we might could lose the whole pre season and part of the regular season.

It's going to take a while to re certify the union, however the player reps can vote formally on the CBA and approve it. Then league activities can begin for teams, re certification if the players decide to do so, could take a week if they do it right. Each player would have the choice to decline. Majority would have to approve the move to re certify.

Then FA could begin, I'm still thinking that teams exclusive window will start Next week on the 25th. Then actual FA would begin around the 28th of this month.

The first Pre season game is pretty much lost and both sides have agreed to that, which is why things have started to slow down again.

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Not quite, it's been known they would have to vote to re certify the union and that it would take a while to do so. That's always been one of the keys steps to getting the league back up and running. The only way the NFLPA can vote on the CBA formally is to re certify.

They can do it quickly by doing a mass conference call, which I believe was the plan for today if the two sides got everything ironed out in time.

The article I read had quoted Mawae. He talked about the re-certification and how that would take time. He threw out the 2 week number.

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Keep in mind that they can have an agreement in place and lift the lockout without recertifying the union. The owners can let the players come to work anytime they want to. They could draft something along the lines of a binding MOU that would make the vote to accept the CBA after the union reforms nothing more than a formality.

Agreed. However, I am sure that the owners want assurance the the anti-trust suit will die before doing anything.

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Keep in mind that they can have an agreement in place and lift the lockout without recertifying the union. The owners can let the players come to work anytime they want to. They could draft something along the lines of a binding MOU that would make the vote to accept the CBA after the union reforms nothing more than a formality.

Yeah thats true. We cant have a CBA unless the Union recertify. So until then there will be no Deal.

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Another article (from PFT...I know they suck) that talks about some of the issues facing the CBA.

fuging greedy ass players.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/reluctance-to-reconstitute-union-is-another-red-herring/

"Kessler apparently is holding up the deal in one way by ignoring all modern means of communication to insist on sending out union cards in the mail for players to sign and return.

There’s another Kessler tactic that continues to find willing soil. As Chris Mortensen of ESPN mentioned moments after Paolantonio’s report from Atlanta, some of the players meeting in Washington are reluctant to reformulate the union."

"With the rookie wage scale sucking away roughly half of what Cam Newton made in comparison to Sam Bradford’s rookie contract, Andrew Luck would be able to sue the league, claiming that the draft is an antitrust violation. And the league would have to defend the case on the merits, because there would be no antitrust exemption in the absence of a union."

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From what I read they could go on with things as planned even with the pending re-certification. Players are slated to vote tonight at 8pm

WRONG.

Just saw Chris Cooley, the Skins' player rep on NFLN just now when I got home and he said voting is very unlikely and unrealistic tonight... Said they MIGHT vote tomorrow, but not sure, depending on whether they like the deal or not.

Also, there's an issue about whether they even want to agree to it at all and be recognized as a union again.

Guess what? I'm willing to bet the owners approve it today, send it to the players and the players either stall it or reject it and we're back to square one.

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