NFL Hates Cam Newton and Michael Vick

[Mr. Scot]

Show me a worse analysis of a draft prospect. I doubt there is one, especially one that was so over the top wrong.

Here's part of Jimmy Clausen's.

Cut from the same cloth as (two prior busts), possessing an elitist attitude and selfishness that could polarize a locker room and create needless drama that may detract from a team.

Clausen has been a bust, but it's been his ability, not his attitude, that's been the problem.

This was J P Losman.

Can come off as arrogant and egotistical. Will rub some people the wrong way. How well he can swallow his pride will determine whether he succeeds or not.

Rhett Bomar

Too often points the finger and lacks humility to accept fault. Struggles to control his emotions and has not yet figured out how to lead. Stubborn and can be resistant to coaching.

And that's just quarterbacks. There are plenty of similar examples at other positions.

While we're at it, here's an excerpt from Newton's.

Composed in pressure situations and found ways to come through in the clutch. Big, strong, physical runner. Pounds defenders and can push a pile — almost always falls forward. Smooth-striding, fluid-moving athlete. Highly competitive and productive against top Southeastern Conference competition — rose to the occasion against Alabama and Oregon on the biggest of stages. Very savvy — confident, charming and charismatic and can light up a room. Highly competitive and plays with passion.

People act like the "negatives" paragraph was the entire review. It wasn't.

Was the negative portion of Newton's rough on him? Yes, but let's not act like he was somehow singled out for special treatment. Draft reviews always give the good and the bad.

It's not personal. It's what they do.

Fans need to stop being butthurt every time someone says something negative about the team or one of the players.

[whatever]

It's people's opinions. Were the ones given about Newton hurtful/ yeah, but honestly I've seen worse. Sometimes they're valid, sometimes not. But if your work is based on researching those opinions, you have to print them.

If you don't print them and they turn out to be valid, you look bad. Print them and they turn out to be invalid, and you look bad (derned if you do...). Best option is just to print them and let the chips fall where they may.

The fan tendency is anytime someone says something we perceive as negative about one of our own, we take it personally. It's rarely actually meant to be personal (I sincerely doubt, for example, that ESPN executives actually have it in for us) but that's fanhood.

unless he's making these sources up, who were they? Urban Meyer? Dan Mullen? he certainly didn't talk to anyone from Auburn, Blinn, or Cam's high school.

[edromeo]

he's kind of boring.

Your sig.

That girl:

Smokin hot, she is sex.

I don't care if she's using her G-string as a hair band.

[monstercat]

Here's part of Jimmy Clausen's.

Clausen has been a bust, but it's been his ability, not his attitude, that's been the problem.

This was J P Losman.

Rhett Bomar

And that's just quarterbacks. There are plenty of similar examples at other positions.

While we're at it, here's an excerpt from Newton's.

People act like the "negatives" paragraph was the entire review. It wasn't.

Was the negative portion of Newton's rough on him? Yes, but let's not act like he was somehow singled out for special treatment. Draft reviews always give the good and the bad.

It's not personal. It's what they do.

Fans need to stop being butthurt every time someone says something negative about the team or one of the players.

None of those are as personal as accusing somebody of having a fake smile. Also, the fact that Nawricki's pros on Cam are the exact opposite of his cons, makes it even worse, IMO. How can he light up the room and draw people to him with a fake smile? That makes no sense. And I still want to know who his sources were for the fake smile crap.

[Mother Grabber]

And on another note. NFL has already crowned Andrew Luck the next coming of Jesus even though he is still in college.

I thought that was The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[Mr. Scot]

None of those are as personal as accusing somebody of having a fake smile. Also, the fact that Nawricki's pros on Cam are the exact opposite of his cons, makes it even worse, IMO. How can he light up the room and draw people to him with a fake smile? That makes no sense. And I still want to know who his sources were for the fake smile crap.

You ever known somebody that some people really like and others just don't? Someone with the kind of personality that some find engaging while others find annoying?

My speculation back during the draft period was that maybe that's the kind of personality Newton has in private. That would explain the differing reads people have.

My former brother-in-law was the same way. So is a certain receiver that we've had on the team for a little while (though Newton's public image is way more personable than Smith's).

[footballisasport]

I remember when that Nawrocki piece came out and everybody was defending him and saying he was one of the most well respected draft analysts out there, even though most of us had never heard of him. Do people still believe that? I too would love to know who his "sources" were for that hit job.

His file cabinet of past write-ups.

He gave himself away when he defended himself when he was accused of race-baiting Cam by stating he wrote some of the same things about Jimmy Clausen's image. That and the fact thate he NEVER met Cam was enough proof for me that he just wanted to get some attention for the sale of his book and simply jumped on the Cam Newton hate train.

[footballisasport]

You ever known somebody that some people really like and others just don't? Someone with the kind of personality that some find engaging while others find annoying?

My speculation back during the draft period was that maybe that's the kind of personality Newton has in private. That would explain the differing reads people have.

My former brother-in-law was the same way. So is a certain receiver that we've had on the team for a little while (though Newton's public image is way more personable than Smith's).

FYI...Nolon NEVER met Cam and everyone who have has stated the opposite. Nolan was feeding what his buddies in the sports media were already saying about Cam. Plain and simply. Like ESPN, NFLN, and all these other sports outlets, Cam was just a means to a gain for Nolan.

IMO, 90 percent of the elite sports media hate Cam cause he's not their son.

[Mr. Scot]

FYI...Nolon NEVER met Cam and everyone who have has stated the opposite. Nolan was feeding what his buddies in the sports media were already saying about Cam. Plain and simply. Like ESPN, NFLN, and all these other sports outlets, Cam was just a means to a gain for Nolan.

IMO, 90 percent of the elite sports media hate Cam cause he's not their son.

A pretty significant portion of the media are going nuts over Newton. Truthfully, a lot of them did when he was at Auburn too. But all we seem to care about is when somebody slights us :nonod:

The whole media could hate us with a passion and talk us down constantly if they wanted to. Who gives a flying crap as long as we win?

Panther fans really need to let this little brother persecution complex go.

[whatever]

this doesn't have anything to do with a little brother complex. the mayocks, mcshays, and nawrockis were pretty vicious with their character asasination and "scouting reports" on Cam and they were very wrong in their assessment of him on both fronts.

unless someone spent a good deal of the weeks/months leading up to the draft quoting these assclowns and using them to support their own claims that Cam would be a bust, i can't imagine why anyone would be defending them in this thread.

[footballisasport]

Here's part of Jimmy Clausen's.

Clausen has been a bust, but it's been his ability, not his attitude, that's been the problem.

This was J P Losman.

Rhett Bomar

And that's just quarterbacks. There are plenty of similar examples at other positions.

While we're at it, here's an excerpt from Newton's.

People act like the "negatives" paragraph was the entire review. It wasn't.

Was the negative portion of Newton's rough on him? Yes, but let's not act like he was somehow singled out for special treatment. Draft reviews always give the good and the bad.

It's not personal. It's what they do.

Fans need to stop being butthurt every time someone says something negative about the team or one of the players.

But there is a difference between others who may have known Jimmy saying those things and the media taking from other people's write-ups to label Cam in the way they did. That is what Nolan did. he never met Cam.

As a matter of fact, even Peter King, the SI writer who threw Cam under the bus to feed the media's negative attack on Cam with his knee jerking misquote of Cam's "entertainer/Icon comment, stated in his twitter right after he release cam's comments that Cam was a "good kid and he was looking forward to meeting him at the Combine." Peter even admitted in an article during the whole media brew-ha-ha, that he intneitonally released the comment on twitter to set Cam up. And many wonder why Cam doesn't speak to him.

By the way, whatever happened to Journalistic integrity? Is it now replaced by "do whatever it takes to get attention" then make excuses and defend oneself?

[footballisasport]

A pretty significant portion of the media are going nuts over Newton. Truthfully, a lot of them did when he was at Auburn too. But all we seem to care about is when somebody slights us :nonod:

The whole media could hate us with a passion and talk us down constantly if they wanted to. Who gives a flying crap as long as we win?

Panther fans really need to let this little brother persecution complex go.

Maybe u need to look a little closer. Just because they constantly talk about u and mention ur name in every other artticle don't mean they are crazy over u. Sadly, we now live in an attention loving and wanting society.

Sadly, Athletes like Cam and The Golden Calf of Bristol are used for the purpose of generating attention. Liking them or not isn't always an issue with todays media .

[Mr. Scot]

Continuing to obsess over negative draft reviews when it's already two weeks into the season and we're looking good is a pretty clear sign of "little brother' complex.

As far as pre-draft reviews...

Brandon LaFell got accused of having a "diva" attitude in his pre-draft review.

Terrell McClain was said to have questionable mental toughness.

David Gettis was said to lack focus and concentration.

Armanti Edwards was said to have padded his stats against low-level competition.

Captain Munnerlyn was never expected to be more than a fourth or fifth corner.

On the flipside, one Panther DL draftee was described as being explosive off the ball and able to overwhelm blockers with his initial quickness. His name? Everette Brown?

Who frigging cares? :nonod:

This kind of stuff factors into pre-draft discussions. When they become pros, they get the chance to establish themselves.

[whatever]

maybe it's stupid to expect these "draft experts" to be somewhat competent, but imo, it's a big deal when they can't even get accurate info on a background check or be bothered to watch game film of someone that was arguably the most popular player in the NCAA last year.