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Some fear Luck could make a power play


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You can't figure it out?

You know how some ghey guys overcompensate for being ghey by working out insane amounts, trying to hide their sexuality behind muscles?

People try and hide the fact that they didn't originally want Cam, they wanted Luck, behind outrageous support for him and hate for any other QBs.

Look back to my similie about the handjobs and QBs. Then read the above few posts.

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That leads people to being overly sensative and fragile when it comes to any perceived criticism of Cam or praise of another QB.

It's like the ghey guy that works out too much to prove he's not ghey. People defend Cam too hard because they know he's the handjob and now they feel bad about it and want to let others know, "Hey guys, I'm okay with the handjob now that she said she wasn't gonna blow me."

This analogy is retarded, but if you want to continue it then it's more like we settled for the handjob but ended up getting laid.

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You can't figure it out?

You know how some ghey guys overcompensate for being ghey by working out insane amounts, trying to hide their sexuality behind muscles?

People try and hide the fact that they didn't originally want Cam, they wanted Luck, behind outrageous support for him and hate for any other QBs.

Look back to my similie about the handjobs and QBs. Then read the above few posts.

Well from what I've read, there were some who claimed by prefer Luck still. There were some who claimed they didn't want Cam during the draft but since changed their mind...which, no should find a problem with....Then there were those who wanted Cam from the beginning and is quite happy with him.

The question is, why do u always use Cam to antagonize folks? What's ur reason for disliking him?

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I don't think he dislikes Cam at all, but I think he dislikes some of the posters here.

I think there is maybe one person on this forum (who is a Panthers fan anyway) right now who would take Luck over Cam right now...

Cam's changed the fortunes of this team at least temporarily by causing incredible excitement. If the team doesn't deliver wins though, that'll be squandered, at least for now.

I'm glad we have Cam but I'm eagerly anticipating when we start winning games with him behind center.

don't know how this topic took this turn, kinda stupid, but whatever.

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Well from what I've read, there were some who claimed by prefer Luck still. There were some who claimed they didn't want Cam during the draft but since changed their mind...which, no should find a problem with....Then there were those who wanted Cam from the beginning and is quite happy with him.

The question is, why do u always use Cam to antagonize folks? What's ur reason for disliking him?

LOL The only person who wanted Cam from the beginning, which to this person was around December, was KT and that was after he said Pryor was the best QB in the draft and we would be stupid not to draft him :lol:

I don't dislike Cam at all, I don't know him.

I dislike you. I dislike posters like you. I dislike you in particular. I dislike your sentence structure, your spelling, your general opinions in life, and especially dislike every post you've ever made, not so much for it's content because your opinion means nothing to anyone, but I hate the idea that when I read one of your posts, it's what you feel, it's what you believe in your heart and in your head. You feel it is sound reasoning and logical and I hate that, I hate that America puts this out there for others to see and I hate that the Carolina Huddle resembles the Falcons Message board of years ago. I hate that you think you contribute to this board and I hate that you feel your posts somehow better Cam's life.

I hate that you are a Cam fan and clearly know nothing about the Panthers other than him. You know nothing about the fanbase other than Cam. You know nothing about the Huddle other than Cam and it shows in every one of your posts.

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