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Trade rumors may have validation


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“(Peppers) was underdeveloped in Carolina,” said a pro scout who has studied Peppers closely. “When you have a rare talent like him, you have to move him around and give him an opportunity to make plays. Every year you heard the staff talking about finding new ways to create more opportunities for (Peppers), and it never happened. You can’t fault him for being upset. (Head coach) John Fox has lost part of the locker room, I know that.”

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Where the eff else does this guy think Pep should have been moved to? WR??? He was moved all over the line last year like that guy says he should have been. Granted, he played mostly @ RDE, but he did move to LDE and played a little @ DT too if I am not mistaken. And I am sorry but he does NOT always require a double team. In fact, he was thwarted all too frequently by tackles I think he should have DOMINATED. BACKUP guys. I wonder if this scout is perhaps a friend of Pep's agent?

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Yea, thats what I'm saying.. so that analyst saying he wasen't moved around enough doesn't know his crap even the slightest.

The thing hampering Peppers in Carolina is his desire to stay with the team and actually put in 100% full effort to be the best he can and help coach the other dlinemen and be a locker room leader.

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Righto... Peppers could break the sack record if he really applied his ability on the field 100%. He's definatley more talented then what Michael Strahan ever was, but he doesn't have the heart to be a champion.

Its been obvious the Panthers have wanted to keep him basically at all costs (offering him a 80kk+ contract) the 16kk+ tender this year that he won't sign, and him having history of being in NC his entire footbal career. Just seems like either Peppers is losing his edge to the love of the game, or he just has no confidence in his suppourting cast.

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Where the eff else does this guy think Pep should have been moved to? WR??? He was moved all over the line last year like that guy says he should have been. Granted, he played mostly @ RDE, but he did move to LDE and played a little @ DT too if I am not mistaken. And I am sorry but he does NOT always require a double team. In fact, he was thwarted all too frequently by tackles I think he should have DOMINATED. BACKUP guys. I wonder if this scout is perhaps a friend of Pep's agent?

Ehh, the article references "a pro scout", meaning "an unnamed pro scout", meaning "some guy I invented to stir things up and generate an article". Don't put too much stock into anything said.

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