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Assuming We Took Every Position We Set Out To Take Then We Killed In Terms Of Value.

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We 100% got our favorite Linebacker in the draft

At worst we got our 2nd favorite guard in the draft, if we had decastro rated higher than Silatolu.

At worst we got our 16th favorite wide receiver in the draft. As 15 total went before Joe Adams. Granted the argument could be made we only wanted a punt returner anyway and if thats the case we landed our favorite returner.

At worst we got our 10th favorite defensive end in the draft. (and 6 went before our 2nd round pick) Value dissapeared quickly there.

At worst we got our 15th favorite corner in the draft.

At worst we got our 2nd favorite punter in the draft.

That being said lets say we knew exactly where every player was going to go (we obviously did not but for the sake of discussion)

Round 1 we got our man regardless unless we did a crazy trade up.

Round 2, we could have had on one of these DE'S or Corner's over Silatolu at 40: (doubt we would have gone any other position over those 2)

Vinny Curry DE(went 59 overall)

Casey Hayward CB (went 62 overall)

Trumaine Johnson CB(went 65 overall)

Josh Robisnson CB(went 66 overall)-shorter than 5-10

Oliver Vernon DE-to miami at 3-4 team(went 72 overall)

Jemell Fleming CB(went 80 overall)

Tyron Crawford DE-to Dallas 3-4 team(went 81 overall)

Dwight Bentley CB(went 85 overall)

Jake Bequette DE-went to patriots 3-4 base d i think, or did they switch?(went 90 overall)

Jayron Hosley CB (went 94 overall but also failed his combine drug test)-

Omar Boldern CB(went 101 overall)

So in essence only 2 potential 4-3 DE's we could have picked up with our 2nd vs waiting til the 4th like we did would have been Vinny Curry

who went 19 picks later or Jake Bequette who went 50 picks later.

What seemed to hurt at the time was missing on 7 corners who potentially may have interest us. Likely the number was less than that because Hosley failed his drug test and Josh Robinson is a hair under 5-10. So that drops the number of potentail corners to 5 at best.

If you include the 4th round we passed on Coty Sensabaugh, Brandon Boykin(5-9) and Ron Brooks as well in favor of Joe Adams and Frank Alexander.

So point is the next best value would have been Curry or one of the the CB'S that went at minimum 32 picks later in round 3. Thats right after Janoris was taken another corner did not leave the board until round 3.

So lets say we took Curry then or one of the corners. and decided to go guard in round 4. Big mistake because their was a run on guards after Silatolu and the best available guard in round 4 would have been Joe Looney from Wake Forest.

If you go back and look we also got Josh Norman at the last possible second too. Every corner after him has a huge dropoff.

After examining the way things fell out heres our alternatives, while selecting the same positions.

A.

1.Stephon Gilmore(CB)

2.Mychal Kendricks (LB)*Rivera said he was our fall back if we missed on Kuechely*

4th round; the same

5th: bpa at guard instead of Silatolu

6th;same punter

7th; same safety

B.

1.Insert your favorite DE here

2.Mychal kendricks LB

4.Joe Adams

4.either no trade up in 4th or teams favorite corner bewteen Boykin, Brooks or Josh Norman or bpa guard

5.BPA Guard or Josh Norman

6.Punter

7.Same

TL;DR Version

Instead of Silatolu our best option would have been Vinny Curry(went 59 overall), Casey Hayward CB (went 62 overall)

Trumaine Johnson CB,(went 65 overall, or)Jemell Fleming CB(went 80 overall).

Problem is the drop off between the level of Guard we would have gotten is much worse than the dropoff we got in DE and Cornerback.

If we did not trade up for Alexander then either we miss out on a DE worth a poo at all or we dont get Joe Adams.

Basically we sucked every bit of possible value out of this draft.

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Great breakdown and perspective.

At worst we missed on Curry. Id do like Norman even better than Dennard who had a 2nd rd grade before the cop assult.

-if someone wanted Decastro it would have been at 9 which before the draft seemed reasonable..insane now.

-as much as I liked Gilmore(he is not near the prospect Kuechley) and Kendricks, who I liked is undersized. Having two lbers in the 6ft or less area would make us vunerable in coverage.

It was a great draft but i could have lived with without trading for someone and bypasing the DE.

With that said Lombardi compared him favorably to Mike Rucker..as a good run defender pass rusher. If that is the case the it was a steal.

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