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I Feel Sorry for Mike Shula

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How??

Cam's time at Auburn, he depended heavily on a very very good Auburn Defense. He only attempted 280 passes while relying on Michael Dwyer's ground game.

Compare to other QBs:

-Luck attempted 288 (2009), 372 (2010), and 404 (2011)passes while at Standford.

-RG3 attempted 454 (2010) and 402 (2011) at Baylor

-Wilson attempted 378 (2009), 527 (2010), and 309 (2011) passes at State/Wisconsin

-Kaepernick attempted 383 (2009), 282 (2010), and 359 (2010) at Neveda

The only thing different now from Cam's Auburn time is that we explored him and found out that he can be something larger. But, imo I think that's the reason why we're losing so much games. We put the games on his shoulders too much. Teams win games when the QB manage the game. Look what separate Brady's 3x SB rings from Peyton's 1 SB ring. The difference is that Brady is a better game manager than Peyton. Brady rely on other players around him and on the other side of the ball to help him win. Cam is in the same situation as Peyton when he was with INDY. He has to win by himself.

With Chud gone, and us having "three very good backs + a rookie Kenjon Barner", and "Star" + "Short", we need to go back to running the ball, playing hard, tough defense, and let Cam rely on the running game instead of putting the game on his shoulder.

Auburn's D wasn't that good.

Dwyer worked with Cam....Cam had 80 more rush attempts than Dwyer. Cam was the offense. People played roles around him.

There is no other Cam. No one he should strive to be like

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The irony is teams are trying to find their next Cam like the Bills(drafting ej manuel) while gettleman is trying to phase out the original Cam by not giving him any weapon to grow with. The bills are on the right track drafting 2 WRs in the early rounds to grow with manuel.

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Auburn's D wasn't that good.

Dwyer worked with Cam....Cam had 80 more rush attempts than Dwyer. Cam was the offense. People played roles around him.

There is no other Cam. No one he should strive to be like

All Im asking is run the ball more. When that happens, Cam is a better QB, we are a better team, and we have a bigger chance of winning. I never said I wanted Cam to change who he is.

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The irony is teams are trying to find their next Cam like the Bills(drafting ej manuel) while gettleman is trying to phase out the original Cam by not giving him any weapon to grow with. The bills are on the right track drafting 2 WRs in the early rounds to grow with manuel.

Manuel isnt Cam. Hes more Culpepper and McNabb

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We neglected offense again. I just don't get it.

No we're not.

We added depth at Guard with Kugbila. Hes a project but I think hes going to be good.

We added Hixon and Ginn to a already full receiving group.

And added Barner in the draft.

How are we neglecting offense?

If yall just open your eyes, yall will see that we're not.

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All Im asking is run the ball more. When that happens, Cam is a better QB, we are a better team, and we have a bigger chance of winning. I never said I wanted Cam to change who he is.

Pointless last year....no holes and Williams regardless of how he ran to often went nowhere. I am sure they would have preferred the RBs did more last year.

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No we're not.

We added depth at Guard with Kugbila. Hes a project but I think hes going to be good.

We added Hixon and Ginn to a already full receiving group.

And added Barner in the draft.

How are we neglecting offense?

If yall just open your eyes, yall will see that we're not.

I'm sure neglect as in bringing what ifs on board rather than almost sure things

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No we're not.

We added depth at Guard with Kugbila. Hes a project but I think hes going to be good.

We added Hixon and Ginn to a already full receiving group.

And added Barner in the draft.

How are we neglecting offense?

If yall just open your eyes, yall will see that we're not.

We need starters at G. A DII kid in 13 won't help.

We have lots of weak WRs we added a LaFell caliber WR to. Ginn is a ST player.

So how did we help Cam in 13? Added Hixon and everyone else got older. Look around the league at what teams do with young QBs....they draft them players to develop with....not bring in 1 yr vet rejects

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We need starters at G. A DII kid in 13 won't help.

We have lots of weak WRs we added a LaFell caliber WR to. Ginn is a ST player.

So how did we help Cam in 13? Added Hixon and everyone else got older.

Look on the bright side. Atlanta, TB, and NO did nothing to improve their offenses also. They actually got worse.

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