Star/Short vs. Dareus/Cox/Brockers

[rayzor]

But, "again and again" that's not what I'm asking.

I'm asking for you guys to compare Star and Short to the previous DTs that weve seen mocked to us in the past.

 

i answered it. i said there isn't much of a drop-off, if there is any at all from those three guys meaning i think they are comparable overall. i think star will show to be better than any of them and short will be able to hold his own against any of them from a production standpoint.

 

i don't hold star getting drafted later in the draft against him and i don't think that the fact that dareus was drafted 3rd overall compared to where star was drafted has any real bearing on how star was viewed by scouts compared to dareus. star fell for one reason...teams were worried about his heart.

 

from a talent and potential standpoint he absolutely warranted being considered a top 3-5 pick and should be in the discussion as one of the best 5 DTs to come out of college in recent years.

 

aside from the motor question (that i think was likely the result of him playing too heavy and too many snaps) i think he's as good as fletcher cox and i think that he'll be able to produce more than cox did as a rookie, tho that will have more to do with his surrounding cast members on the line.

 

brockers was my favorite potential pick from last year, but i think both star and short are better.

[carolina-chuck]

i answered it. i said there isn't much of a drop-off, if there is any at all from those three guys meaning i think they are comparable overall. i think star will show to be better than any of them and short will be able to hold his own against any of them from a production standpoint.

i don't hold star getting drafted later in the draft against him and i don't think that the fact that dareus was drafted 3rd overall compared to where star was drafted has any real bearing on how star was viewed by scouts compared to dareus. star fell for one reason...teams were worried about his heart.

from a talent and potential standpoint he absolutely warranted being considered a top 3-5 pick and should be in the discussion as one of the best 5 DTs to come out of college in recent years.

aside from the motor question (that i think was likely the result of him playing too heavy and too many snaps) i think he's as good as fletcher cox and i think that he'll be able to produce more than cox did as a rookie, tho that will have more to do with his surrounding cast members on the line.

brockers was my favorite potential pick from last year, but i think both star and short are better.

I know you did. I'm just making sure you know that I never said to assume we take those guys over Cam and Luke.

And I also was a big fan of Brockers. I liked him more than Cox. But I would have to disagree with you on Short being better than Brockers. I think Brockers will become one of the best DT in the NFL very soon. He has amazing size standing at 6'6". He's as good an interior pass rusher as he is stuffing the run. He does so much more behind the scene (statistic). He's not going to be near a Geno Atkins in stats but he does so much on game day.