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Salary Cap: $58,679,000

Tax Level: $71,748,000

Salary Floor: $52,811,000

 

Charlotte Bobcats Contracts

Al Jefferson: 13,500,000

Ben Gordon: 13,200,000

Ramon Sessions: $5,000,000

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: $4,809,840

Cody Zeller: $3,857,040

Bismack Biyomob: $3,217,680

Josh McRoberts: $2,750,000

Kemba Walker: $2,709,720

Brendan Haywood: $2,000,000

Jeff Adrien: 916,099 (Non-Guaranteed Contract)

Jeff Taylor: $788,872

 

Total Salary: $52,749,251

 

Other Contracts

Gerald Henderson (Qualifying Offer): $4,267, 424

 

Total Of Other Contracts: $4,267,424

 

Total Combined Salary: $57,016,675

 

Cap Room: $1,662,325

 

Current Roster

PG: Kemba Walker, Ramon Sessions

SG: Gerald Henderson, Ben Gordon

SF: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Jeff Taylor

PF: Cody Zeller, Josh McRoberts, Jeff Adrien

C: Al Jefferson, Bismack Biyombo, Brendan Haywood

 

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Jeff Adrien has a non guaranteed contract for this upcoming season and can be cut to save the nearly million he's owed.

I thought of cutting him, but I was able to keep everything under 58.5 so I kept his salary for next season.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if he was cut because I listed 13 players up there and teams are only allowed to dress 12.

So do you pay him to sit the bench or just keep him until his contract expires next year.

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The real question is...

Do you want to sign Al Jefferson and Seth Curry/Brandon Triche/Troy Daniels

Or

Do you want to sign two of the following players: Chris Kaman, Kyle Korver, Devin Harris, Tyler Hansbrough, Marco Belinelli, Marreese Speights, Elton Brand, Brandan Wright, Will Bynum, Jason Maxiell, Matt Barnes, Lamar Odom, Earl Clark, Antawn Jamison, Chase Budinger, Tony Allen, Samuel Dalembert, Al-Farouq Aminu, Beno Udrih, Chris Copeland, Nick Young, Dorrell Wright, Jermaine O'neal, Wesley Johnson, Gary Neal, Randy Foye, Alan Anderson...

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The real question is...

Do you want to sign Al Jefferson and Seth Curry/Brandon Triche/Troy Daniels

Or

Do you want to sign two of the following players: Chris Kaman, Kyle Korver, Devin Harris, Tyler Hansbrough, Marco Belinelli, Marreese Speights, Elton Brand, Brandan Wright, Will Bynum, Jason Maxiell, Matt Barnes, Lamar Odom, Earl Clark, Antawn Jamison, Chase Budinger, Tony Allen, Samuel Dalembert, Al-Farouq Aminu, Beno Udrih, Chris Copeland, Nick Young, Dorrell Wright, Jermaine O'neal, Wesley Johnson, Gary Neal, Randy Foye, Alan Anderson...

 

Read this article by Kurt Helin.

Warriors talk with Howard, Iguodala; sign of changing culture

 

"The Golden State Warriors have next to zero chance of landing Dwight Howard. They knew it when they asked to meet, Howard knew it. Convincing the Lakers to do a sign-and-trade that makes the Warriors a contender for years to come is next to impossible. But Howard was interested in what Golden State was building and the Warriors wanted the meeting.

 

Golden State also had a meeting in Los Angeles with Andre Iguodala. It was kind of the same situation — you can see the fit on the court but this would have to be a big sign-and-trade that Denver likely wants no part of. But both sides took the meeting.

 

What does Golden State get out of all this?

 

It’s all part of changing the culture.

 

Golden State was as poorly run a franchise you could find for a couple of decades — they made the playoffs once in the 18 seasons before this last one.

 

New owners Peter Guber and Joe Lacob set about changing the culture of the franchise. They brought in the highly-respected Jerry West to the front office. They went way out of the box with Mark Jackson as the coach. They have talked about a new arena on the San Francisco waterfront. They wisely want to do everything different than their predecessor.

 

And that includes spend money — and let fans know they are willing to spend it. That they are willing to go after the best players available.

 

So even if you have no real shot at Howard or Iguodala, you go in the room and pitch to them how good things are and how they fit in. The fans appreciate it. Future free agents (and their agents) take notice. And you put yourself on a different track.

 

We’ll see how all this plays out — short-term success could swing on a turn of Stephen Curry’s ankle.

 

But what they are showing from ownership on down is the kind of long-term change Warriors fans should be excited about."

 

 

 

 

 

SIGN BIG AL!!! 

It'd be pathetic if we chose to sign two mediocre players over a potential All-Star Big.

It's time to "change this culture". How can anyone ask for a situation (two players) like that is beyond me. Any smart person would choose to pay 14 mil to a solid player like Big Al than splitting that 14mil on two players that wont be long term answers. Now, that scenario is simply someone spending money just bc they have money in the bank.

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Read this article by Kurt Helin. Warriors talk with Howard, Iguodala; sign of changing culture

"The Golden State Warriors have next to zero chance of landing Dwight Howard. They knew it when they asked to meet, Howard knew it. Convincing the Lakers to do a sign-and-trade that makes the Warriors a contender for years to come is next to impossible. But Howard was interested in what Golden State was building and the Warriors wanted the meeting.

Golden State also had a meeting in Los Angeles with Andre Iguodala. It was kind of the same situation — you can see the fit on the court but this would have to be a big sign-and-trade that Denver likely wants no part of. But both sides took the meeting.

What does Golden State get out of all this?

It’s all part of changing the culture.

Golden State was as poorly run a franchise you could find for a couple of decades — they made the playoffs once in the 18 seasons before this last one.

New owners Peter Guber and Joe Lacob set about changing the culture of the franchise. They brought in the highly-respected Jerry West to the front office. They went way out of the box with Mark Jackson as the coach. They have talked about a new arena on the San Francisco waterfront. They wisely want to do everything different than their predecessor.

And that includes spend money — and let fans know they are willing to spend it. That they are willing to go after the best players available.

So even if you have no real shot at Howard or Iguodala, you go in the room and pitch to them how good things are and how they fit in. The fans appreciate it. Future free agents (and their agents) take notice. And you put yourself on a different track.

We’ll see how all this plays out — short-term success could swing on a turn of Stephen Curry’s ankle.

But what they are showing from ownership on down is the kind of long-term change Warriors fans should be excited about."

SIGN BIG AL!!!

It'd be pathetic if we chose to sign two mediocre players over a potential All-Star Big.

It's time to "change this culture". How can anyone ask for a situation (two players) like that is beyond me.

I 100% agree with this. Good post

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As accurate as you can get... (I just wanted to update this little thread with the correct info...)

 

With the signing of Jefferson and the amnestying of Tyrus Thomas...

 

- The Bobcats have a total salary of $45,226,112 wrapped up in: Al Jefferson, Ben Gordon, Ramon Sessions, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Gerald Henderson, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, Brendan Haywood, Jeff Adrien, and Jeff Taylor.

 

- They currently have $13,273,888 in cap space.

 

- We will assume that Gerald Henderson's final deal is valued at $9,267,424... tacking on another five million dollars to our total salary leaving us at a total salary of $50,226,112 wrapped up in the following players: Al Jefferson, Ben Gordon, Ramon Sessions, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Gerald Henderson, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, Brendan Haywood, Jeff Adrien, and Jeff Taylor.

 

- The Bobcats still need to sign Cody Zeller... we will value his deal at $3,894,240 (what Dion Waiters made last year), which brings the Bobcats total salary to $54,120,352 wrapped up in the following players: Al Jefferson, Ben Gordon, Ramon Sessions, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Gerald Henderson, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, Brendan Haywood, Jeff Adrien, and Jeff Taylor...

 

- This leaves the Bobcats with around $4,379,648 in cap space.

 

The Bobcats can increase this number to $5,295,747 with the release of Jeff Adrien and his non-guaranteed contract.

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As accurate as you can get... (I just wanted to update this little thread with the correct info...)

With the signing of Jefferson and the amnestying of Tyrus Thomas...

- The Bobcats have a total salary of $45,226,112 wrapped up in: Al Jefferson, Ben Gordon, Ramon Sessions, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Gerald Henderson, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, Brendan Haywood, Jeff Adrien, and Jeff Taylor.

- They currently have $13,273,888 in cap space.

- We will assume that Gerald Henderson's final deal is valued at $9,267,424... tacking on another five million dollars to our total salary leaving us at a total salary of $50,226,112 wrapped up in the following players: Al Jefferson, Ben Gordon, Ramon Sessions, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Gerald Henderson, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, Brendan Haywood, Jeff Adrien, and Jeff Taylor.

- The Bobcats still need to sign Cody Zeller... we will value his deal at $3,894,240 (what Dion Waiters made last year), which brings the Bobcats total salary to $54,120,352 wrapped up in the following players: Al Jefferson, Ben Gordon, Ramon Sessions, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Gerald Henderson, Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker, Brendan Haywood, Jeff Adrien, and Jeff Taylor...

- This leaves the Bobcats with around $4,379,648 in cap space.

The Bobcats can increase this number to $5,295,747 with the release of Jeff Adrien and his non-guaranteed contract.

I'd be pretty upset if we gave Hendo a 9 mil contact after seeing JR's 4yr/24mil. And, I'm not compare Hendo to look at Evans or J.J. We'll clearly be overpaying Hendo at that price and he could very well become a "bad contract" in a year or two. At this time, Hendo isn't gaining much interest from other teams too.
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