Shula, Zod, and SCP

[Anybodyhome]

That's not even remotely true. One of those 9 man fronts where we came out in a run formation was the goal-line pass play to Olsen, and it completely flummoxed Tampa's coverage as they were convinced we were going to run the ball, which is why it was a perfect time for the play fake. We had THREE players open on that play, with Hartsock and Nate Chandler sitting in the back of the end zone uncovered.

 

We flipped the script on that again in the second half when we spread the field with a three receiver set and actually ran Cam up the middle on a zone read. Again, we showed one thing formation-wise and did another.

 

And sometimes you're going to have to run the ball even if they show a heavy front; that Tolbert run for the first down on 4th and 1 was against a nine man box and it achieved exactly what it needed to do.

 

Playcalling looks elementary if you don't know what the hell you're looking at. Oftentimes an excellent play looks brain dead simple, because that's the beauty of them; they exploit a single matchup on the field and keep the chains moving. The best play we ran all night was that simple drag route to Ginn that used Olsen as a decoy down the seam to isolate Ted on Lavonte David. He had no chance to keep up with Ginn and a simple pitch from Cam turned into 35 yards. That's the opposite of poor playcalling.

 

You're using 3-4 examples of the 62 offensive plays run. Obviously, there is the occasional wrinkle, but you can't sit there and tell me you have no idea what the play call is when you see the formation.

 

I don't know, I've only been watching and attending games for 45 years or so, but I can tell you with pretty good certainty what play is coming and aside from the couple you mentioned, there's not much innovation there. 

[rko396]

You're using 3-4 examples of the 62 offensive plays run. Obviously, there is the occasional wrinkle, but you can't sit there and tell me you have no idea what the play call is when you see the formation.

 

I don't know, I've only been watching and attending games for 45 years or so, but I can tell you with pretty good certainty what play is coming and aside from the couple you mentioned, there's not much innovation there. 

 

Then apparently you should be a defensive coordinator somewhere in this league, since we put up 30+ points in our last 3 games against coaches who get paid 6-7 figure salaries to try and stop us

[fieryprophet]

You're using 3-4 examples of the 62 offensive plays run. Obviously, there is the occasional wrinkle, but you can't sit there and tell me you have no idea what the play call is when you see the formation.

 

I don't know, I've only been watching and attending games for 45 years or so, but I can tell you with pretty good certainty what play is coming and aside from the couple you mentioned, there's not much innovation there. 

 

That's just a silly criticism. There's a reason certain formations most often run similar plays: because that's the play most effective with that formation. How many jumbo formations are going to involve a 40 yard pass? Why do fans instinctively recoil when they see a four man receiver set and the ball goes to the back on a draw? You run the formations that are most conducive to the play at hand, and that is what sets up things like play action, because you establish a particular play with a certain formation, until surprising the defense when they sell out to stop that play.

 

And the variety of calls within the formations has been very good of late as well. Another nifty play we ran against Tampa was Tolbert's touchdown catch: we showed a lead power run with Tolbert blocking for DeAngelo, but instead of blocking Tolbert "whiffed" on his block and sprinted out to the flat, while Cam faked the handoff to DeAngelo before flipping the ball to Tolbert for the TD. So, while the play itself resembled a simple lead run for DeAngelo with Tolbert acting as the lead blocker, it was actually DeAngelo who was "blocking" for Tolbert as he held off the defender long enough for Cam to make the throw.

[Anybodyhome]

Then apparently you should be a defensive coordinator somewhere in this league, since we put up 30+ points in our last 3 games against coaches who get paid 6-7 figure salaries to try and stop us

 

 

That's just a silly criticism. There's a reason certain formations most often run similar plays: because that's the play most effective with that formation. How many jumbo formations are going to involve a 40 yard pass? Why do fans instinctively recoil when they see a four man receiver set and the ball goes to the back on a draw? You run the formations that are most conducive to the play at hand, and that is what sets up things like play action, because you establish a particular play with a certain formation, until surprising the defense when they sell out to stop that play.

 

And the variety of calls within the formations has been very good of late as well. Another nifty play we ran against Tampa was Tolbert's touchdown catch: we showed a lead power run with Tolbert blocking for DeAngelo, but instead of blocking Tolbert "whiffed" on his block and sprinted out to the flat, while Cam faked the handoff to DeAngelo before flipping the ball to Tolbert for the TD. So, while the play itself resembled a simple lead run for DeAngelo with Tolbert acting as the lead blocker, it was actually DeAngelo who was "blocking" for Tolbert as he held off the defender long enough for

 

[fieryprophet]

Forgive me for being so incredibly wrong.

Gee, you guys are absolute football geniuses. Why aren't you doing it for a living?

I actually do some work for PFF.

[Anybodyhome]

I actually do some work for PFF.

 

Ummm..... ok.......lol.

[rko396]

Forgive me for being so incredibly wrong.

Gee, you guys are absolute football geniuses. Why aren't you doing it for a living?

 

you must feel like such a genius on sundays between the hours of 1-4pm while you sit there on your couch with one hand down your pants and the other buried in a bag of doritos, and stare at your TV and say "Run Play."

 

While youre doing that, defensive coordinators around the league are sitting up in their coaching boxes with an endless stream of stats, information, player personnel combos and other things while they are trying to decipher if the offense is running a "53 blue speed 6 front over" or a "sprint rex 8-zac chicago", determining what to do based on the opponents previous situations, and what blitz packages to send with the current personnel the offense is using.all of this going on every 30 seconds, knowing each and every decision he makes has HUGE ramifications. 

 

But yes, continue to sit there and explain how you (random guy who spends his time on an internet forum) could do a much better job

[Anybodyhome]

Well, I certainly have you working overtime trying to impress me, someone else or yourself, not sure which.

 

Funny how I'm the random guy, but you're right there attempting to prove your worth on the same internet forum.