While Newton struggles against top passing defenses, Kaepernick is worse

[CRA]

15th in Pass Defense. 

Divisional rivals, Big Big Breakdown. We know that rodgers wasn't his full self, bu the didn't need to be.

 

Almost. They should have some breakdown on him after last year and this year.

talent is talent.....they aren't equipped.

 

You can watch Carolina for example for a blueprint for CK.....but if you don't have the bodies or run that style it doesn't do you much good.

[48ochoshogun]

talent is talent.....they aren't equipped.

 

You can watch Carolina for example for a blueprint for CK.....but if you don't have the bodies or run that style it doesn't do you much good.

SF Offense weren't equipped in the last game against carolina. 

in that case

[ajax4132]

SF Offense weren't equipped in the last game against carolina. 

in that case

Excuses excuses

 

What is it gonna be this time??? 

[CRA]

SF Offense weren't equipped in the last game against carolina. 

in that case

 

Crabtree doesn't fix the issue Carolina gives SF

[48ochoshogun]

Crabtree doesn't fix the Issue

Yeah, and not a reason why we haven't lost since he's came back.

 

Also, VD actually staying in the whole game this time with Crabtree does.

 

but you say, GB wasn't equipped and they lost, we weren't equipped last time

and the result will show sunday

[CRA]

Yeah, and not a reason why we haven't lost since he's came back.

 

Also, VD actually staying in the whole game this time with Crabtree does.

 

but you say, GB wasn't equipped and they lost, we weren't equipped last time

and the result will show sunday

 

again, Crabtree doesn't fix the problem you face with Carolina.  Your issue last time wasn't the quality of your receiving target.  Carolina IMO is the worst possible defensive matchup SF could face.  NFL is all about matchups.  We present one for SF.  All top D's aren't built the same.  

[That49Guy]

again, Crabtree doesn't fix the problem you face with Carolina.  Your issue last time wasn't the quality of your receiving target.  Carolina IMO is the worst possible defensive matchup SF could face.  NFL is all about matchups.  We present one for SF.  All top D's aren't built the same.  

 

49ers two biggest offensive threats weren't playing in the last game but will be playing in this game: Vernon Davis and Crabtree.

 

 

Also, Aldon Smith did not play in the last game.

 

 

No matter what you say about matchups, you cannot deny the fact they the Niners offense will be much more equipped this time around. And there were quite a few lucky plays that bounced Carolina's way in the first game. One of them being this play that I believe turned into points eventually:

 

[CRA]

49ers two biggest offensive threats weren't playing in the last game but will be playing in this game: Vernon Davis and Crabtree.

 

 

Also, Aldon Smith did not play in the last game.

 

 

No matter what you say about matchups, you cannot deny the fact they the Niners offense will be much more equipped this time around. And there were quite a few lucky plays that bounced Carolina's way in the first game. One of them being this play that I believe turned into points eventually:

 

 

again, I don't deny Crabtree doesn't give you a better option at WR.  All I am saying, is a better playmaking receiving option doesn't solve the problem the 49ers face/faced.  All your focus is Crabtree and the fact Davis missed a half....you aren't addressing the fact Kapernick can't get past the issues we present it makes all that irrelevant.  We have best 4 man rush in the NFL......means we can drop 7 which helps take away his first read and then we can attack Kapernick.  That is your issue.   Our front 7 being what it is....won't allow the GB first read and run bull poo either.

 

also, SF got some lucky bounces as well.....like our FG kicker randomly kicking one in the back of our lineman for no reason?  Lucky break.  Pretty sure we dropped an INT on your opening drive.  Lucky bounce.  Anyone can play that game.  It is also the worst game to play.  You either make the plays or you don't, the rest doesn't matter.

 

also, the only 49ers you mentioned that didn't play was Crabtree.  Davis played, got knocked out for the 2nd half.  Aldon played in obvious pass situations.   I mean do you want a list of guys we had not playing healthy or something...everyone can make excuses

[panthers55]

Lambeau is Lambeau, the cold was an extra edge to GB. That's why Anaylsts make much more of it. & With Aaron back and all.

 

He's bad on the road and at home? What? what? He's just as good on the road, what.

Green Bay was not a good team this year and Rodgers was coming back from injury.  I expected the 49ers to win.  They routinely put up 400 yards of offense on Green Bay because they suck.  That still has nothing to do with putting up less than a 100 yards against us at home.  And forgive for thinking Crabtree is the whole difference.  We will double team and make sure he doesn't beat us.  And Davis wasn't a factor because we knocked him out of the game.

 

Truth is we will beat the 49ers at their own game this week which is be more physical and nasty than they are which is exactly what we did last time.

[GroundNPound]

The fourtywhiners will beat themselves again. We are statistically much better at home. All this if he played, if this lucky break didnt happen, etc wont mean a thing when the game is over. I think its so lame that your team is unable to acknowledge we played better for one game. Even Tom CryBaby did on his teams behalf. Luckily after an inevitable loss your quarterback can go take more awkward nude photos for magazines and Harbawls can make more excuses.

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[panthers55]

49ers two biggest offensive threats weren't playing in the last game but will be playing in this game: Vernon Davis and Crabtree.

 

 

Also, Aldon Smith did not play in the last game.

 

 

No matter what you say about matchups, you cannot deny the fact they the Niners offense will be much more equipped this time around. And there were quite a few lucky plays that bounced Carolina's way in the first game. One of them being this play that I believe turned into points eventually:

 

Crabtree is the only one who didn't play. Smith did play that game although not every snap and Davis got knocked out.  So how it is our fault we were too physical for you guys??

 

If we double Crabtree and we will, he will be a non-factor.  Unlike Green Bay and some other teams you have beaten we don't have to load the box with 9 players to stop the run or get to the quarterback.  Even if Crabtree gets 100 yards then Kaepernick will have 200 yards passing.  Won't be enough to win.

 

The only defense better than ours is Seattle and we all see how you did there on the road.  And yes the road versus home is a huge deal.  At least for the Panthers.  Kaepernick sucks against top passing defenses on the road and home.

[That49Guy]

Green Bay was not a good team this year and Rodgers was coming back from injury.  I expected the 49ers to win.  They routinely put up 400 yards of offense on Green Bay because they suck.  That still has nothing to do with putting up less than a 100 yards against us at home.  And forgive for thinking Crabtree is the whole difference.  We will double team and make sure he doesn't beat us.  And Davis wasn't a factor because we knocked him out of the game.

 

Truth is we will beat the 49ers at their own game this week which is be more physical and nasty than they are which is exactly what we did last time.

 

Vernon Davis played 22 snaps. Aldon played 12.

 

 

They're both healthy and playing every snap this weekend.

 

 

And if Bowman holds on to that INT, it's game over.

 

 

You guys won by 1 lousy point last time without our pro-bowl WR. The 49ers also dropped 5 of 21 aimed passes that day.

 

 

Give me a break. If you can't admit that you won by a point and that could have easily been a loss, or that at the very least we are going to be a much better team this time around, you are delusionsal. I'm not even saying we win, I'm saying we're vastly improved on offense now. You say Crabtree doesn't help because of your front 4 not letting Kap get to his first read? I say it's the exact opposite. Crabtree can get open way better than Boldin, so when the pressure comes he has a much better outlet to go to on his first read.

 

We won't drop 5 passes like last time.

 

We have our pro-bowl receiver back.

 

We have one of the top 3 TE's in the game healthy.

 

We have our record setting OLB healthy and mentally in the game.

 

 

To discount all of that because you won by a point last time is just stupid.

 

[panthers55]

Vernon Davis played 22 snaps. Aldon played 12.

 

 

They're both healthy and playing every snap this weekend.

 

 

And if Bowman holds on to that INT, it's game over.

 

 

You guys won by 1 lousy point last time without our pro-bowl WR. The 49ers also dropped 5 of 21 aimed passes that day.

 

 

Give me a break. If you can't admit that you won by a point and that could have easily been a loss, or that at the very least we are going to be a much better team this time around, you are delusionsal. I'm not even saying we win, I'm saying we're vastly improved on offense now. You say Crabtree doesn't help because of your front 4 not letting him get to his first read? I say it's the exact opposite. Crabtree can get open way better than Boldin, so when the pressure comes he has a much better outlet to go to on his first read.

 

We won't drop 5 passes like last time.

 

We have our pro-bowl receiver back.

 

We have one of the top 3 TE's in the game healthy.

 

We have our record setting OLB healthy and mentally in the game.

 

 

To just discount all of that is just stupid.

Actually to play the "what if" game and if we did this or that is the real stupid part.  If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their ass so much.

 

And again you ignore that we are home not away.  We went into your house and kicked your team with who you brought.  We will do the same thing this week as well. Kaepernick sucks against top defenses on the road.  Cam does much better against top defenses at home.  And that will be the difference.  All the rest is just shoulda, coulda, woulda,

[Heiisenberg]

I'm not arguing Carolina has been overly impressive.

Just that this recent media blitz that San Fran is suddenly this juggernaut that should win.....is bogus.

As far as our losses go. We had Sea. Fumbled the game away.

We had Buff as well.

Cam was carving up AZ but no WR could catch that day and then it imploded late.

So 3 of our 4 losses IMO don't show a concern. The Aints lined up in spanked us Sun night in the dome. We aren't built for that game in those conditions. No team left presents that though.

I say this game is a coin flip with an ever so slight edge to Carolina.....bc it is a home game and Cam is better than CK. Weapons, OL and all that aside.....he is better right now. I bet that way since overall the teams are so even.

 

 

Its not bogus for 49ers to be chosen to win.  They are a playoff hardened team, are the current conference champions who have yet to be knocked off.  So why wouldnt a team, who is in their 3rd consecutive year in the playoffs be a slight favorite over a team who hasnt been in the playoffs, and really only just this year came into their own as a contender?  In the NFL the cream rises to the top so we'll find out sunday. 

 

Yes I realize every loss has their reasons.  I could blame the offensive line, wr, bad calls, fumbles or a freak interception that lead to the  any of the 49er losses too. 

 

Only one of the 49ers losses is a concern to me, and that's the away game at seattle.   So , same boat really.  I dont think past events this season will factor into this game at all.  I said this before ill say it again, theyre too even so the only way IMO to assess who has the advantage would be what the differences are in these two teams, since they are so similar.  49ers are going to be playing 3 guys who didnt play (or play much) last time around; 2 of them are all pros, the other is Crabtree.   Thats an example of the 49ers being a different and more explosive team.  Have the panthers any new blood on teh team this time around?  I understand your D has improved, the team improved from that game.  I hope you understand that carolina isnt the only team who has improved over the past couple months. 9ers are riding a 7 game streak, panthers won a bunch of games recently too.

 

 

i think most people already know, especially 9ers fans.  i mean just look at how many weapons they have now and how many we never had(according to them and many others), and Cam was/is still the superior QB.

 

I think people tend to forget he was drafted as a project qb, and is still in his first full season as a starter. Cam was drafted as a national champion, heisman winning ,hype machine, franchise player from day 1.   Cam IS the start of carolina, he is carolina.  Kap is another star on a team  chock full of pro bowlers and all pros.  Kap will come into his own.  I imagine he'll have Cams numbers or even better by the time he's been quarterbacking for a couple years.  He's only slightly behind him in most stats as it is in his first full year as a starter.