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A Guide to Preseason Game Viewing

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Every season it is interesting to see extreme fan reactions to preseason games. After the game, twitter is ablaze with angry fits of criticism and outrage.

The Panthers reaction to this outrage usually looks something like this....

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Greg Hardy - Carolina Panthers

It occurred to me that some fans need a preseason football viewing tutorial.

Here are a few key points to help you understand and enjoy the preseason a bit more and save yourself some embarrassment on twitter.

1. The main objective is not winning. I know, this seems like football blasphemy, but if the coaches are being honest they would tell you the same. The main objective in preseason play is talent evaluation. In many cases, players earn or lose a roster spot in the preseason. Seeing a player's reaction to a real opponent in a real game with real hitting is the ultimate evaluation tool.

2. Another objective is play evaluation. The Panthers will start each game with a series of scripted plays they want to take a close look at. These are typically base plays to which variations can be added. Often times they will stick to the predetermined script despite a disadvantage in field position. Again, the goal is not scoring touchdowns, the goal is evaluation.

3. Coaching decisions or effectiveness are impossible to judge. With possibly slight exception in the third preseason game where light game planning is performed, we really won't see how effective the offense or defense play calling will be until the regular season.

4. Individual player performance is open to praise or criticism. There are very valid things to get excited or upset about in preseason, and individual player performance is one of them. This is especially true for the second and third string. These guys are playing for a roster spot, you are seeing them at their very best.

5. Special Teams can be fully evaluated. In the preseason the Special Teams unit are pretty much what you see is what you get. Feel free to fully judge.


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Oh and the First and Fourth games pretty much don't matter at all, and goal #1 is getting out injury free.

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I guarantee that people will ignore this and still bitch and complain and have meltdowns after losses in the pre-season.

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Every season it is interesting to see extreme fan reactions to preseason games. After the game, twitter is ablaze with angry fits of criticism and outrage.

The Panthers reaction to this outrage usually looks something like this....

greg-hardy-panthers.jpg

Greg Hardy - Carolina Panthers

It occurred to me that some fans need a preseason football viewing tutorial.

Here are a few key points to help you understand and enjoy the preseason a bit more and save yourself some embarrassment on twitter.

1. The main objective is not winning. I know, this seems like football blasphemy, but if the coaches are being honest they would tell you the same. The main objective in preseason play is talent evaluation. In many cases, players earn or lose a roster spot in the preseason. Seeing a player's reaction to a real opponent in a real game with real hitting is the ultimate evaluation tool.

2. Another objective is play evaluation. The Panthers will start each game with a series of scripted plays they want to take a close look at. These are typically base plays to which variations can be added. Often times they will stick to the predetermined script despite a disadvantage in field position. Again, the goal is not scoring touchdowns, the goal is evaluation.

3. Coaching decisions or effectiveness are impossible to judge. With possibly slight exception in the third preseason game where light game planning is performed, we won't see the effectiveness of the offensive or defensive play calling until the regular season.

4. Individual player performance is open to praise or criticism. There are very valid things to get excited or upset about in preseason, and individual player performance is one of them. This is especially true for the second and third string. These guys are playing for a roster spot, you are seeing them at their very best.

5. Special Teams can be fully evaluated. In the preseason the Special Teams unit are pretty much what you see is what you get. Feel free to fully judge.

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The fact you have to do this after 18 years. Makes me sick that we have so many idiots  in this fan base. :sick:

 

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The fact you have to do this after 18 years. Makes me sick that we have so many idiots in this fan base. :sick:

not really, it means the fan base is growing, I had to explain to someone on here this offseason that Nick Goings used to be a very good role player for us, because all he ever knew was the post concussion goings not the pre concussion one because he didnt start watching before that.

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Like one guy said, watching Preseason is like watching scrambled Skinemax. Every now and then you catch a glimpse of something, but most of the time you can't see anything intelligible.

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If you're expecting 4 wins every pre-season prepare to be disappointed.

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This is what makes the four-game preseason a joke.  I know that some teams have shared practices with other teams and host scrimmages.  I think this would make more sense from strictly a player, scheme, play evaluation standpoint.  If folks want to drive down to TC to see the Panthers line up with say, the Jags, for a scrimmage game, go for it.

 

Once you sell full price tickets, sell concessions, fill up a stadium, parking lots, etc, fans inevitably want to see a football game.  I agree that winning is not the desired outcome for the coaches, but for those who remember the 1-15 season, that first preseason win the following August was a welcome sign. 

 

 

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I still like to win the home ones.  It still  pisses me off when Pittsburgh fans who migrate from the trailer parks in South Carolina come to the game because it the only time they will see their team live and yell and make an ass of themselves if  they win because their 4th string is better than ours at the end of the game. I don't like their fans anyway, butt this puts them over the top.

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The best is preseason legends like Taye Biddle and Lamont Bryant.

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Taye biddle looked like a HoFer in the preseason lol

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The best is preseason legends like Taye Biddle and Lamont Bryant.

I liked both those players.  Just goes to show you why I am not a scout..............

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Yeah I was at a bar last season (or year before that) and had to try to explain to one of my friends why we didn't have Smitty in the game in the 4th quarter only down one touchdown.

 

Of course, he was a Cowboys fan first, so that may explain part of the brain damage.

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Like one guy said, watching Preseason is like watching scrambled Skinemax. Every now and then you catch a glimpse of something, but most of the time you can't see anything intelligible.

 

fuging brilliant!

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I still like to win the home ones. It still pisses me off when Pittsburgh fans who migrate from the trailer parks in South Carolina come to the game because it the only time they will see their team live and yell and make an ass of themselves if they win because their 4th string is better than ours at the end of the game. I don't like their fans anyway, butt this puts them over the top.

Do you guys love to throw SC under the bus? Don't put that poo on my state man. There are very loyal panther fans here that "migrate" up to put their ass in those seats. NC not filling them alone. Ever been to a bobcats game?

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Preseason is about watching our rookies and guys playing for back-up roles, which can be very important. The O and D will run very vanilla plays with our starters so you can't gauge anything one way or another.

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Proper ass-wiping procedure:

 

Front to back.  Quality TP is key.  Finish with some moist wipes. 

 

 

YW.

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I like to watch the third and fourth quarters to see the roster battles.  There are some players on this team who could make it or could go to the PS until they are ready.  Names I am interested in:  DE Roh,  Chandler at T, CB White (I would LOVE to see them look at him at FS), Lester, Gettis, Adams, Kugbila (who will be ugly if he plays), Cameron, Fua at UT, etc.

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Indeed....  my son and I are faithful SCarolina Panther fans (though not traveling that often).  

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Do you guys love to throw SC under the bus? Don't put that poo on my state man. There are very loyal panther fans here that "migrate" up to put their ass in those seats. NC not filling them alone. Ever been to a bobcats game?

Who said that South Carolina fans aren't loyal?

 

And yes I have been to plenty of bobcat games including the playoff games.  

 

Lighten up Francis!!!

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Who said that South Carolina fans aren't loyal?

 

And yes I have been to plenty of bobcat games including the playoff games.  

 

Lighten up Francis!!!

Im cool just seems that SC stuff gets thrown around a lot. They have trailer parks in NC as well.

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Im cool just seems that SC stuff gets thrown around a lot. They have trailer parks in NC as well.

Tons of them.  Can I help that both times the pittsburgh fans were from SC and they did live in trailer parks?  I guess that is what happens when your seats are in the upper deck.

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Tons of them.  Can I help that both times the pittsburgh fans were from SC and they did live in trailer parks?  I guess that is what happens when your seats are in the upper deck.

Hey man I'm up there with you section 528

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Has there been a time that the Panthers looked terrible in pre-season and then came out and played amazing in the regular season?

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Alright. So here's the real truth of preseason. Every year the self-appointed "rational" guys do this, and no doubt, there is merit to the notion that you shouldn't take preseason games too seriously, and that wins or losses don't matter. But here's the part that goes ignored every year- you don't want the team to come out looking like crap.

 

How the team plays in these games has proven to be a rather telling indicator how they will perform overall in the regular season. In what has become a yearly tradition, we see the team come out looking flat, or unprepared emotionally or fundamentally, or some players who shouldn't even be trying out for a roster and just flat out suck are awarded key starting positions regardless of how terrible they've been throughout the preseason, and every year, people say, "hey, this seems to be a problem" to which the aforementioned "rational" people proclaim "HARHAR LOOK @ U NEWB ITS PRESEASON THESE GAMES DONT MEEN NOTHIN!!"

 

Then the irony comes in, as those same people are befuddled and stunned when the team comes out a mere six days later looking flat, or unprepared emotionally or fundamentally, or some players who shouldn't have even been on our roster and flat out suck were awarded starting positions.

 

This is followed by rage and outcry, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE MAGICAL GENIE JELOSPHIN DIDNT DESCEND WHEN PRESEASON ENDED AND BESTOW THE MAGICAL PROPHESIED IN ANCIENT TIMES "REGULAR SEASON POWERS" UPON US??? THE INTERNET SAID THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!! WHY IS SIONE FUA STILL AN AWFUL PLAYER?!"

 

No, the preseason doesn't mean much. What you do want to see however, is good football, top to bottom. You want to see your starters look pumped, focused, prepared, equipped, and ready for an NFL season. You want to see your backups look mentally prepared and as if they actually understand the sport that is being played. You want your team to look good.

 

 

 

 

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4. Individual player performance is open to praise or criticism. There are very valid things to get excited or upset about in preseason, and individual player performance is one of them. This is especially true for the second and third string. These guys are playing for a roster spot, you are seeing them at their very best.

5. Special Teams can be fully evaluated. In the preseason the Special Teams unit are pretty much what you see is what you get. Feel free to fully judge.

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I'd only like to add that sometimes, people's evaluations, particularly praise for 2nd and 3rd string potentials can go way, way overboard.  They'll see a 3rd string player make a couple of really impressive plays against other guys lower down the depth chart and all of a sudden he's the saviour of the franchise.

 

It's one thing to evaluate and say, "Hey, this guy could help us on game day when we need him."  It's another to be all, "OMFG this guy should be starting!  He's going the be the destroyer of worlds!  Pro Bowl or GTFO!!!1"

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