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Canales said. "So Luke certainly gives us that, and he'll be competing for the job. We also have Nick Samac, whom we brought in, and I'm excited about Nick. He looks good. has been training. We could draft a guy, so we wanted to try to make that position a really competitive spot.

May be the dumbest comparison I’ve ever seen written

I mean, I hear you guys saying "UDFA," but I could see using a later day 3 pick on him. Round five and especially rounds 6 and 7 are highly speculative anyway.

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And what words are you referring to? How about the fact that in his own words, he basically said that in the money rounds, we ain't drafting for depth, but players that can make an impact from day one?

Negative? It Canales own words

I think the bars in uptown would consider themselves very lucky.

This is the 5'10" Manziel wannabe (without Manziel's arm). Why the actual fug are you wasting a visit on this punk?!

You're just being negative. Fortner is a solid center and plus pass protector. Walker is a plus pass protector and a meh run blocker. Give me pass protection over run blocking any day of the week, especially for BY9. We already have one bust at WR, one above average guy--when he's in--and a merry band of dudes who've done comparatively little in the pros. Talk about a crisis if T-mac were to go down for any appreciable amount of time...

Yes. You have to be brave as a GM to do it, but if your scouting tells you that he's going to bookend your OLine for the next decade, you pull the trigger. There's absolutely no way Walker (1 year deal) and Moton (now injury prone and in his 30s) are going to start every game. You can work him into the rotation.

We gave up three first round picks for him - and he gift wrapped the #1 overall pick for the Bears in the process. Imagine if we still had Moore, whoever you want from #10 downwards in 2023, whoever you want from #1 downwards in 2024. You could literally have Drake Maye throwing to Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Moore.

Really, isn't that what I just said? Why would a QB be high on your board if you already have one? QBs may may be valued more overall, as they are central to a team's success, but they also have a high bust rate along with other premium positions, but the difference is is that you have to generally pay way more for them one way or another. So, you stay away, unless you just can't for whatever reasons.

2 banged up starters on the oline, 1 starter completely out for the foreseeable future, a LT that nobody really wanted for who knows why, a "meh" center that is not guaranteed the job. Oh yeah and absolutely no depth as we sit here on April 8th. With all that said, and not to beat a dead horse, this all goes along with a qb who goes ass up when ever pressure is applied So yeah your point stands and I am not going to cry if we spend a ton of picks on the oline. guards and tackles

I'll just take the super processor. If he could get to that, I think we'd all be feeling better about his future. Not holding my breath though. More likely to hold my nose. I haven't completely given up though.

If BPA wasnt a myth then why arent more teams with qb drafting qbs if they are high on their boards? You are nuts if you dont think teams take in positional value, roster make up and draft depth in selection of players

Everybody has their wishlist, but I'm not sure that Fano is going to be better than Miller, Freeling or Proctor. Rodriguez is a dawg, but he's no Luke. I would love to get him though.

BPA is not a myth. You think that these teams don't have their boards up and ready to go on draft night? BPA is in reference to a team's board. The positional value, character, off-field concerns and all that other stuff is built-in. Hell, some players don't even make a team's board more than likely due to being questionable human beings. You see, I don't get the "Bryce argument." I think that's weak within this context. You do what's best for the team. Always! If you perceive that an OT is best for the team, you draft him. If you perceive a WR is best for the team, you draft him. If you perceive that a safety is best, you draft him, etc. Bryce, just by virtue of being on the team is going to be more successful.

You might let someone else pay you to take him and level your value out with the proceeds. Which is what I would want to do if a WR that is clearly the best player at 19, is there.

Well all we are doing here is pissing to mark territory because non of us have a bit of power over what they will do. At the same time a lot people out think the professionals. I have a way I want it to go. Probably won’t, usually doesn’t. But will say again, we have a crisis brewing on OL.

Yeah, but being "even" is a different argument. Of course you're going to take the player that you need more if all things are equal. That's a no-brainer.

I just don't see that as being in the realm of reality, but in theory if the tackle is the BPA, then sure. Like I just said in another thread, sometimes it's not a matter of being right or wrong, but just putting the puzzle pieces together to make it work. All this sh¡t is guess work, it's just that the professionals have more educated guess work.

Well certain guys are clearly a notch better than other guys. But only very occasionally will they present themselves to you all wrapped up with a bow when your clock starts. I am a win at the LOS fan over skill positions and if a LT or an A’Shawn replacement stood at least even with other players I would be a buyer. I think there was a good argument for T Mac in that regard last year, and had no issue and would accept it again this year but it needs to be really clear. I don’t expect it to be. But if it is, there should be trade interest and that’s what I am about this year re our situation. I would love to trade back and fit the value to an OT while getting ammo to move up and get one of these LBs in the 2nd. Need based? Yep. Trying to build a team not a room.

Nah we need to draft someone, those aren't much better or the same tier as Bryce outside of Stafford, but he would retire before playing somewhere else. But with the guys these fools have been visiting with that might not be much better.

I don't know, nor did I say that. I said you don't reach down over a higher graded player to grab a lower graded player; it doesn't matter the position. It doesn't matter what any of us think when we're on the clock. The professionals are the ones getting paid to scout and pick. If we're all being honest, we think they're are better options available all the time. Hell, plenty of people thought there were better players than T-mac last year. I mean, sometimes it's still a debate over players' careers. I mean, sure the busts are obviously wrong, but sometimes there is no right and wrong, it's just a matter of putting puzzle pieces together and making it work.

I looked at 2027 FA QBs with that in mind just this morning. It isn’t pretty. Starters are Watson, Geno, Stafford and another guy so meh I forgot who it was. Justin Fields, mildly interesting if he learns anything from Andy Reid. Davis Mills isn’t bad. Then I got to guys like Levis who I think is interesting but not someone you bring in as your guy.