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What are you talking about? Leaf had a pretty bad junior year (his big year was his sophomore year),didn't even go first overall, and if you believe Bill Polian he was never even an option. Everyone knew Jamarcus was a huge bust risk, and everyone knew if he went to Oakland is was going to be a disaster. The only reason he was taken was because Al Davis was senile. That was a terrible draft for QBs and basically everyone else in the first round is a hall of famer. I mean the only other qb taken in the first round was brady quinn Bryce has had INSANE amounts of hype since he first arrived at Alabama. Almost every single one of his games was on primetime during his college career. Unlike Leaf, he actually won the heisman. One of the reason so many in the media are still hanging on to the Bryce hope is how wrong all of them were about him, and he doesn't give them a convenient hand waive excuse like Leaf or Jamarcus.

Lol, I forgot how many people here need training wheels to read. My bad! From now on pawagwaphs, got it!

well he hadn't played in a year because jesus told him to hold out for more money. a lot of people forget that. he absolutely had a longer panthers career than Bryce will

It came from Canales because Bryce is his QB. When all you've got is a, er, uh, hammer...

That's the thing with Josh Allen, it took a while for Buffalo to fix him and his throwing motion. If he's not coachable, he's a bust and out of the NFL in 3 years.

Ah yes. Simple. Coachable.

That's even more fools.... because he wasn't when he was drafted.... he was just coachable

That doesn't necessarily make him a bigger bust Look, I'm not remotely defending Bryce, my history here has proven that I'm anything but a fan. But I think people forget the hype around Wilson and Lance vs the amount of non hype there was around Bryce except for a few small number of people. That alone is why I just can't get to where I rank Bryce with those all time bust labels. Even guys like Russell and Leaf had supreme amount of pre-draft hype around them, levels Bryce never reached in the lead up to that draft.

It was obvious after 3 quarters he's legit. Most of the time you can tell pretty quickly on the great ones. Cam was obvious after one game. It's the eye test. Meanwhile, some are still trying to convince themselves 30 games in that Bryce can just be an average QB. He has never looked the part.

Also he was widely the #1 ranked prospect in that draft.

Yeah I'm not against picking someone with physical tools. But Josh Allen is creating a lot of fools gold in front offices' eyes. They still have to be good at football at the end of the day.

Trey is the backup QB for SD, Zack Wilson is the backup for Miami. I don't think BY is even a NFL caliber back up.

Honestly it depends on your definition of bust. I think there is an argument to be made that he's not even Top 2 since 2021, and that's coming from one of the bigger anti Bryce people here since before we even drafted him. I think Zack Wilson and Trey Lance both had more pre-draft hype than Bryce did, maybe by a wide margin, and both of them ended up turning out even worse than Bryce has. Plus the 49ers gave up almost as much as we did for Bryce to take an unproven raw D2 QB who hadn't played in a year because Covid shut that level of football down. While the Jets turned down all sorts of big offers to take Wilson as well. We made Bryce a bust by making the trade and then taking him, despite him not being liked by many analysts for the same reasons that was clear to so many of us fans. It was widely talked about being a bad QB draft, so much so that the Bears stuck with Justin Fields for another year and traded away the #1 pick because of it. So as bad as Bryce has been, I honestly don't think he ranks near the top of the all time busts list, mainly because I think people forget he wasn't some can't miss prospect and we're the idiots who made a bad trade to take him to make it just look worse.

I think we should go for the next 5’8 180 kid. Damn our history with the 6’5 250 one lol

Now, that is throw i could see Bryce making!

10 more years of athletic unicorns being picked in the first round.

426 total yards 4 total touchdowns and 0 turnovers...... dude might finally be peaking. Also 2td in the fourth if you count the rushing

Dude is insane..... trailing 15 late in the fourth he just walks out there and boom boom boom

I would trade Bryce for Trey Lance right now straight up.

16-22 250 yards and 1td in just the 4th quarter for Josh Allen. Holy fug

Like how they drafted a QB in the 7th round even though they gave up all of that for Lance? You know. Because QBs don't always work out.

Incredible game, wow.

I will argue that, in recent memory, Trey Lance is worse. The 49ers gave up 3 fuging first rounders to a guy who had a dozen starts or some poo prior to the NFL. Its just that the 49ers are leagues better overall as an NFL organization compared to Tepper's neverending shitshow.

I think Kyle Orton may still hold the trophy for worst long-ish term starter of all time but he definitely rivals him.