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I think a trade back would be very unwise. This draft doesn't appear to have the crazy depth at multiple positions like the 2025 draft did. It all also is going to be next to impossible to remedy in one offseason. We are still multiple offseasons away from building a quality roster so we need consistent improvement on that front and we cannot afford more 2024 offseasons mixed in. It's going to be interesting to see what happens and the trend. I could see a possibility that we are offense heavy this draft or offseason. That's something to watch. If so, I think it is going to speak volumes about the general mindset of the organization.

Coaches say poo all the time. Evero isn’t going to come out and say “yeah Rozeboom we’re just out of options ya know?” and who cares if they’re “his guy” when he’s playing second fiddle to 17 ppg on the other side of the field. “His guys” are all coming from the scrap heap. or no one free agents want to play for the panthers because they’re one of the worst organizations in football.

Can't remember the last time we had a decent coverage safety. Maybe Kurt Coleman. I think overall Nick Scott played pretty solid the back half of the season. But he definitely got exposed and picked on in the Rams game. Rams also knew that Cover 3 is weak against the seams and targeted that area a lot. Evero needs to mix in some Cover 4 with his zone (especially when it's 3rd and long). That will help take away the seams and should only allow short routes to be open (if everybody is in their zone). Getting linebackers and safeties that can actually cover some would also help him to run some man defense (if he ever plans to).

Yeah but so many of the worst players on the defense are "Evero guys." That's what I mean.

After the Rams offer was published, we were screwed permanently. It was either pay him an exorbitant price or trade him for nickels. All remaining leverage was completely gone. The return on the draft picks is a larger issue with completely incompetent front office personnel. What can you say that hasn't already been said on that front? It just is what it is. I will again state he would likely have been very, very underperforming here. This should be obvious when you look at his pressures and sacks which were at career lows for seasons which he started more than 4 games. He isn't the only pass rusher that can immediately show dips in pass rush production when they are playing in Evero's scheme. Clowney, Wonnum, etc. I gotta be honest, it's going to be hard to find a double digit sack guy in an Evero defense. In his 4 years in the NFL he has only ever had one player break 6.5 sacks for a season and it was Burns at 8.0.

I will say that Dan came into a fvcked up situation (perhaps partly his making, but that's another discussion). We were devoid of talent, cash-strapped and draft-position-challenged. Plus, he had to have time to develop a plan and acquire the right staff. I think that he's made some inroads on the offense (though still a work in progress), now he has a little latitude to focus on improving the defense. If he doesn't address two of the three major needs on defense this year, there is really no excuse. The only fly in that ointment will possibly be the Ickey injury (and two a lesser extent BC). We may have to prepare ourselves for a trade-back. I don't know how we're going to do everything without more picks. Morgan and Tillis have to work some magic, otherwise we may be thinking that the FO is wilfully ignoring critical positions again. We absolutely need an LT, a pass rusher, a middle 'backer, and a safety. How are we going to get viable talent at all these positions? It's going to be interesting to see what happens, but I'm thinking we have to acquire more picks.

There's only 32 NFL HC jobs available. It's not like you can just sit back and wait for the perfect opportunity. For the money it pays, I'll go out to Vegas and make a complete ass of myself with a poo eating grin you couldn't beat off my face with a crowbar.

This is complicated by him being a UFA and being unable to pass a physical. Also, he isn't young to be having that sort of injury. As fantastic as he has been, the plan SHOULD be to get another quality utility OL in the draft and if BC becomes available, sign him off the couch when he is ready to go. He won't have many suitors(as he didn't last season) so I suspect this will be an option. Curhan was fine...for a PS player. I do think we need to aim higher there, as well.

Obviously I’m not going to defend Canales. He’d had immense resources since he got here to build one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league with some of the most unwatchable football we’ve seen since the pickles year. evero has been in the worst situation in the league since he got here and is doing more with less than Canales. Like yeah bryce is awful but there Canales was hired because he said he could fix him. The defense has like five Bryces on it and evero wants to get out here so bad he took a second interview WITH THE RAIDERS

Pretty sure Carter led the NFL in quick pressures and had the lowest Time To Pressure in the NFL. I think he helped that Burns sack output dramatically.

I meant for what we did. We got almost no return for those draft picks and I disagree with you. He’s the 10th highest paid edge rusher in the league right now and was #2 in sacks. We paid his salary with players who have had almost no impact (see Tershawn Wharton and Patrick Jones). Burns is 27 and yeah….we absolutely could have used a player who got 16.5 sacks. At this point I’d take any player who could sniff double digit sacks

Oh, we should've traded him. We just should've traded him to the Rams for their offer the year before.

I think people drastically underestimate how bad Canales and Evero are at personnel management and talent evaluation.

He'll always be a luxury piece, and if he's priced like a cornerstone he isn't worth it.

There are ample good options for us to not choose.

I don't really think he is good at either. That's the problem.

So if the average recovery time (and we both know the reality of the ACL--varies and the longer-term objective is to return to form more than to recover) in the NFL is 8-12 months with many player returning after 9 months. That would put him back as early as camp, but if it takes 12, October. I am not sure I would say "highly unlikely" but it is problematic to consider him depth for 2026 at this time. This probably bodes well for Curhan who has G/T abilities. I think this draft is deep at developmental OTs and there are maybe 4 that can be expected to start right away--but that is based on what I have been reading--I have not been watching videos.

quite the high bar there

Panthers don’t have an nfl caliber linebacker or a pass rusher to speak of and their second string would fail to make other teams practice squads but if only evero would this use One Weird Trick we’d be the 1999 ravens

Ryan Leaf would like a word.

Imagine saying this about any other position on the team for a player who just got another 30 mil

He didn't quit on us. He was just not effective in Evero's defense, which limits pass rushers. Umanmielen was correct in what he said/implied, IMO. Scheme is a bigger problem than pass rush talent here. It limits pass rushers. He will always be weak in rush defense.

Wow a Second Interview with the Raiders he may get this job!! And then we will have to think about who could be our new D Coordinator

Which is extremely possible with Darnold back there. Saleh has done a good job of shutting down their offense. They have to get Purdy off the ground and cooking without hurting them with TO's. CMC will not be a factor in the run game at all but he can bridge that massive gap that Kittle being lost created by exploiting LB and S mismatches.

I would caution that it is highly unlikely BC will play in 2026 after that torn Achilles. If he does, he will miss a significant portion of the season. So we do need to attempt to replace him in some way. For some reason we just refuse to address critical positions for years on end. It's a franchise trait.