CPcavedweller

I remember people here saying it was ridiculous that we didn't draft Hooker, and that he would be someone we regretted passing on.

+0.5 speed

We have ONE of seven who will not see the field on offense. Jimmy Horn also is more quick, than fast. He could probably have gone up to New England with Brady and been a puzzle fit, learning to run the Edelman, Dola, Welker route tree. He's not going to be asked to do that here. He's going to be asked to run a traditional route tree and just beat your man on your assigned route. The comp for Bryce was Mahomes. Mahomes and Reid play a lot of backyard style football with plays drawn up on the fly. Brady used to do this with his quick hitters. I get Bryce is going into year three, but man, you really have to adjust to your personnel. The team is still building as if we have a 6'4 QB starting and that's just not the case.

I'd rather have 5'11, 190 lbs, can run routes better than the corners can. Why does Canales want jump ball receivers? What is his angle here? Bryce played in a high percentage offense in college, with guys who were both fast and excellent route runners. So he comes here and we do the exact opposite.

If I lost 70 lbs I would be dead. So good work surviving that.

Didn't trade him for peanuts. But yes, route runners are a no go here. Otherwise we would have had Matthew Golden or Tyler Warren.

I think he got rid of Rivera too fast. Rivera wasn't the issue here, Hurney was.

I sort of assumed that when we didn't bring in legitimate competition to push Bryce, but then again, this is the Panthers. Usually we won't show our cards until later. But, my disappointment bar just went way down now that Thielen is gone. He, in my opinion, has been the most exciting part of the last two years. Seeing an actual NFL wide receiver play for the Panthers was amazing while it lasted. Now we get go balls galore and have three guys who are route tree newbs. Bryce will get sacked as much as he was in 2023 and the offensive line will be blamed, but it won't be his fault. We all saw what Bryce looked like without Thielen last year. I expect more of the same.

Hayden Hurst had some good years, DJ Chark was a 1,000 yard receiver but can't stay healthy. Miles Sanders was what, a 1,300 yard running back? Laviska Chenault isn't exactly an every down player and I still hate that he isn't here because he has a skillset that I love.

This tells me that the Front Office likely doesn't see us as a playoff team this year. That's ridiculous considering what we gave up for Bryce and that he's in his third year.

Don’t worry, they’ve got those 3 meter thick walls, the super cooler, the pond, etc. to cool off that super computer sitting on his shoulders. We will be A Okay.

He’s a career killer at this point.

The Lions just lost the two coaches which really made Sunday's go. Dan Campbell isn't an X's and O's kind of coach. That all fell on Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn. I would almost certainly expect a regression, maybe even to .500, for the Lions.

I think keeping Horn with Thielen is the better approach. At this point he’s more than just a player to the guys in the room and even the quarterback. He’s a coach on the field and on the sideline. If the Vikings want him, they will pony up, period.

It sounds like he inserted a prompt into ChatGPT and ran with it. I really despise the lack of writing ability.

Don't get me back on the "keep Darnold, keep Wilks, keep Foreman, trade down, take Charbonnet, Torrance, Mimms, and maybe Kincaid depending on what we got in a trade down." Those were my desires in 2023. Tepper wouldn't answer my call. He's reaping what he sowed. And all of us has had precious time wasted in our lives that we will never get back supporting his business.

People aren't saying the Vikings would do that. What those of us who are saying this, are saying, is that is the only way. If the Vikings don't bite, they don't bite. They shouldn't bite. But you never say never to that number.

That's NOT what that says. "If the Panthers are willing to take on some of Thielen's contract..." Which we very well may be depending on what pick the Vikings would offer. I'd ship him off for a two and cover half of his contract. That would be a massive overpayment by the Vikings but it's not my problem. In the eventual situation that we are building with a new QB next year, we may need more picks.

People keep forgetting about that game like it didn't happen. Sure, the Cardinals and the Falcons were defeated, but it took overtime. Against the real competition for the division, we are so, so far behind. If Baker can play even slightly more consistent on a play to play basis, Tampa Bay could be a dark horse for the Bowl. He's pretty consistent game to game and now he's really got it down to play to play.

It was mentioned earlier in this thread, and then again just below you. Adam is helping Bryce call out the defensive play, and helping with protections it seems. It becomes more obvious when he's out of the game and our offense looks like post chorizo soft baby poo.

If he is the one helping Bryce read defenses, do we really want him gone when we still lost to Tampa 48-14 close to the end of the season? Do we want him gone? I'd say no.

They want us to eat part of his hit, it confirms that we aren't pushing for the playoffs this year. Price went up, take a 2nd, we eat $8 million of his salary.