CPcavedweller

I think the casual fans are excited by receivers. This doesn’t make sense tactically, it doesn’t make sense in terms of roster building. It doesn’t make sense in terms of who was available in this draft. The Falcons have had, in my mind, a great draft. The Giants have had the first round they wanted. The Panthers just reached for a guy. We didn’t need a 50/50 ball specialist. We could have taken Warren or Loveland and got that to go along with a tight end. We needed someone like Golden out of Houston/Texas. The great teams in the league have fast, shifty receivers who can take an 8 yard out route 62 yards for a touchdown. Who can create 4 yards of separation with one toe on the ground. They don’t have two stiff X receivers who can’t get off of press coverage for your 5’9 QB to heave prayer balls to. Peak stupidity. Golden’s tape was insane. Egbuka is a true number one who can go and cut. Tet is a second or third option one trick pony who will hurt you when you play a defense who can play man. We will get pressed all day long which will hurt the run game, and it will hurt Bryce.

He can’t get off press coverage in the PAC 12/Big 12. He is a go ball specialist who isn’t particularly quick. Defenses will play tight man, jam at the line, and still the only guy who will get open is Adam Theilen. Taking this guy when you have both Loveland and Warren on the board is peak stupidity. Warren or Loveland could do everything you drafted Tet to do, and they can play tight end really, really well. Adam will still be the only open receiver and Legette and now Tet will flail around trying to get off coverage for all but three or four snaps. Welcome back to the Benjamin/Funchess experiment guys. That worked out really well when Benjamin got hurt and Funchess had a ridiculous season. What. A. Waste. They can’t sell me on BPA. They tried to trade down and when they couldn’t, they reached by probably 10 or more picks. If this fails, or worse, hurts Bryce’s development, they all deserve to be fired. This is playoff year. This is Year 3 after taking a QB first overall. Taking Tet at 8 is a reach of reaches. I hope it works out. I have a feeling it won’t. This guy isn’t Christian Watson or Mike Evan’s or Drake London. And each one of those guys plays with other receivers who can GET OPEN. See you guys in August. This is garbage.

Well Morgan makes me look like an idiot. You had two tight ends who can do the exact same poo Tet can do sitting there, a true slot in Egbuka, a burner in Golden who can run the entire route tree. we take another go ball receiver to pair with the stiff hip Legette, stiff hip Sanders, and an aging Theilen and decent 3 option in what’s his face from Holy Cross. I don’t get it. I really don’t. This will inevitably fail like every other receiver draft pick not named Steve Smith. Idiots fell in love with the measurables yet again. I’d have been happier taking Shadeur Sanders than this guy who can’t even get off blocks in the PAC 12/Big 12. We have gone back in time to the Funchess/Benjamin experiment which was fantastic, when Benjamin got hurt.

So what are we going to do? Trade Legette? Even if Legette is two, we don’t need another 6’4 go ball specialist. We had the Twin Towers experiment and experience, it didn’t end well. If anything, you would trade down and use the additional picks to trade back up to take Golden.

We don’t need another guy like Tet though. We already have Legette. They are the same style of player. we need a speed, shifty guy like the Dolphins have, or the tandem like the Eagles have. I’d prefer the Chiefs set-up with a Kelci like guy, as that has worked well for them.

I would take Kyle McCord in the 4th in a heart beat.

And statistics would suggest that won’t happen again, regardless. We don’t need to reach at 8 when the talent later is so close to what we would get there. BPA will be Graham or Warren. we don’t need Tet, who has the same exact skill set as Legette. We need a 5’11 dude who runs a 4.25 40.

We are also tormented by Everett Brown and other tweener picks. You don’t take a tweener in the Top 10.

Tyler Warren. We drafted a mini-Mahomes in 2023. He needs his normal sized replica of Kelci. Defensive talent is to be had later in the draft and I think he is the only true Blue Chip left at that point. BPA.

Right. Giving him the Kelci like tight end to scheme on the fly with, while also drafting the smaller, jet speed receiver as the Dolphins have done, would make this offense very difficult to stop in my opinion. If five touchdown Bryce was not an anomaly, he can be really good, and the offense can be really efficient. I just don't want Tommy Tremble's menial contract to be given as a reason why you wouldn't take Warren. He is different from Bowers in his build. He's not quite as fluid but Bowers is built more like an H Back than a Tight End. He is different from LaPorta and Kincaid in that he is far more fluid of an athlete. Again, I will die on this hill, but he is Kelci. He was a high school quarterback, he can run, he can throw, and he knows soft spots of the defense, as does Bryce at this point. We aren't taking him though, and this will be my last comment on it. Glad I found someone like minded on this.

No it doesn't. But, it is what it is. I was born in the early 90's so I grew up with the Panthers. I've grown to expect disappointment in who they pick. Times it worked out were with Star, KK, and Luke. I was fine with Cam but obviously at the time, no one knew really what to expect of how his game would translate. Anyone who watches college football has seen Georgia play because they are on, all the time. As an App State fan, I can say that in a vacuum, I was probably as impressed with Mike Green and Josiah Stewart, as well as Nate Johnson (who just transferred from App to Mizzou), as I was Georgia's ends. They are physical freaks as you'd expect, but the results just don't align with their measureables and who they were playing next to. Give me Warren, take a DT in the 2nd, Josiah Stewart in the third, Restrepo or Skattebo in the 4th. Then maybe take another flyer on a DT later and another pass rusher in the 6th. We can't give up what we gave up for Bryce and not at least give him a tight end. I will die on that hill that Warren should be the pick, even though I know he won't be.

Taking an inside linebacker at 8 would be a good plan, historically.

I know I’m not getting any individual or philosophy I want in this draft and that’s fine, as that’s been my experience as a Panthers fan. If Graham falls I’d like the Panthers to take him and then take Josiah Stewart in the third round. Perhaps pick up Xavier Restrepo in the 4th and a burner in the 2nd. I still believe our team will be better suited by taking Warren though. Our defense cannot be as bad as it was last year and there isn’t a huge gap in defensive talent in the first three rounds of this draft.

Buffalo literally follows the Carolina model. It works for them because of their stability and their drafts have hit. They also play in a garbage division.

Sanders took a lot of sacks, sure. But he also had one of the best completion percentages against the blitz, best passer ratings against pressure, etc. The sack number doesn't bother me because his numbers when facing pressure are so good.

Not if he takes Warren and the Panthers win 10 games and dude has 10 touchdowns and Bryce has 40 total touchdowns. Had he played at the pace of his scoring after his benching, he would’ve had around 40 touchdowns so that’s not impossible. The depth of defense in this draft is wild, and the drop in talent is not that high. Take Warren Dan. take, Warren. Do it.

You're all forgetting that Jeanty could have played anywhere he wanted to in 2024, and started. But he stayed at Boise State. I would take him on character alone.

You're moving the goal posts here. He provided them. I like Hampton, but put him at Boise State. do you think he has 2,600 yards?

"Gettlenuts suckssss"

2013 is low.

Also, Stew is GOAT. So GTFO with that.

So you're comparing Sam LaPorta to Hunter Henry and Freiermuth? I watched enough of Penn State to know that Warren is closer to Kelci in terms of fluid movement than any of them. That is why he is rated as highly as he is. Give the mini-Mahomes his Kelci. If we had listened to me in 2023 none of this would be necessary but here we are.

Your username is a hint of how bad you are at this. That aside. Who is saying we need a Top 10 player at every position? Most of us are just saying Warren because he would give us that big, physical, fluid athlete at the TE position that would pair well with the style of ball Bryce likes to play. The issue isn't whether you have good tight ends or not. Plenty of guys are good at the position. Most of them are not as fluid of athletes as you see with Kelci, and I think Warren is that kind of guy. Furthermore, it could open the field up for the rest of the offense.

You want to know who to pick? And this is easy, you take Tyler Warren first, Kenneth Grant second, Josiah Stewart third, Xavier Restrepo fourth, maybe Cam Skattebo 5th... Man, it's NOT HARD. At all.

Do you want to die on that hill? And what is "inferior"? How "inferior" is the Mountain West to the ACC, really? There isn't as big of a gap as ESPN would like for you to believe. You also have to remember that he is playing behind a Boise State offensive line. He isn't playing behind Georgia's line in the Mountain West. So what you call "inferior", I call a level playing field. If he was just another dude who beat up on smaller schools, he wouldn't be considered to be drafted where he is.