pantherj

Not 3 first rounders. NO.

We need to be as aggressive as possible and trade the farm for Watson. Two 1st round picks, this years second round pick, and they can pick from DJ or Burns. If they reject that offer then I want to see the offer they take.

Paradis can play out his contract as we address other areas of need. I think we're going to trade down in the draft and pick up a lot of players. Guards, CB, TE, and pass rushing DT are all on the shopping list. Expect Teddy two gloves and Paradis to be back in action next season with an upgraded roster and an 8-8ish finish to the season. UNLESS.... we land Watson. Then we'll draft LG, C, RG and kick some ass.

The Panthers would be near the bottom of my list. Teams ready to win now like the Colts, 49ers, and Saints would be at the top.

Don't kick field goals when you're up against Mahomes.

Go for it! That's Mahomes!

If this were the 2023 Panthers, and Stafford popped up in the free agent market at 32 years old, then I'd say GRAB HIM!

Rebuilding teams shouldn't take older declining QBs for all the obvious reasons. Think of the hits Stafford would have to endure behind our o-line? Hell we're still not even finished rebuilding our defense. We're not a win now team. The Colts will want Stafford, and they should be the team to have him and try to win right now.

Stafford needs a stone wall o-line, like the one in Indy, not our patchwork line where we don't even who will be at LT, and the interior sucks. I could go on why Stafford doesn't want to come here, but I think we'll see a Stafford to Indy announcement soon. No need to go on about it.

That's what I think as well.

I am not totally against Stafford coming here. I would rather have Stafford than Teddy if those were the two options. I think we'd go 8-8ish with Teddy next season due to an improved roster. I think Stafford with an improved roster could hit 9-7ish or maybe even better. I don't think Stafford wants to come here during our rebuild. He has passed his prime, or is passing it, and he needs to hit on a winner now. The Colts are set up to win now, as an example, and he would be much better suited there imo. Plug Stafford into the Colts and you're in the playoffs and possibly a SB run. Plug him in here and we're not ready to make a run. Then when we are ready for a SB run Stafford is too old. It's not great timing, and I'm not saying that 100% that's how it will play out, but I'd rather go younger with a QB. In addition, the 1st rounder we give up for Stafford further slows down our rebuilding process.

Stafford is 32. We're still several seasons away from completing our rebuilding process. We need a younger QB imo. Stafford will go to the 49ers who are in a "win now" kind of position imo. If not the 49ers, then you plug Stafford into the Colts and they're back in the playoffs imo. He's not coming here.

I would imagine everyone in the Texans organization is doing everything they can to appease Deshaun and keep him long term. Once the Texan organization kisses his rear enough he might just change his tune and stay for good. Assuming the Texans can't appease Deshaun we'll have to put together a huge deal to compete with the other teams clamoring to snatch him. I'm starting with the idea that Deshaun isn't going anywhere, and the more time that passes the more that is solidified.

Rhule's explanation for playing the starters against the WFT was that he wanted to teach the players how to win in December. It was a great learning opportunity in his mind and especially for the younger players. Thanks to that win we will now likely end up watching the QBs with the best potential be snapped up right in front of us. I just hope those QBs end up being busts, otherwise that WFT win will become legendary and not in a good way.

Not taking an avatar bet huh?

Ugh.. we haven't done it yet.

We will improve the roster, and with CMC playing at least most of the we'll be at or near 8 wins. What would you like to bet? We get near or at 8 wins and you change your avatar to an image that says "I don't know what I'm talking about"

Argument that is not.

Mark this thread. 8 and wins and we'll revisit this post.

If we trade Detriot our first for Stafford I'm done. I'm out.

fug Matt Stafford. Might as well stick with Teddy.

All we had to do was Bench Teddy for the WFT game. Now we're screwed. We're headed to 8-8 Teddy limbo for the next two seasons at least. Unless we can pull off a miracle and land Watson it's a wrap.

Offer our 4th round pick and KK.

Well looks like we've got to rebuild the long hard way.

I think the Texans will want two 1sts and our best player on a rookie contract at the most important position. That means I think they will want Burns. If not then DJ. If not, then no deal.