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it’s not like we didn’t already know this but if you can hit the out, the comeback, and the outside shoulder on the 9 then you have the requisite arm strength Bryce has done all three. Discussion’s over.

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Throwing the ball on a rope for the intermediate out, not a good look for the peoples who entire evaluation is how hard the ball is thrown

lol what play did you want at that spot

Now being reported that he’s probable to play, which means the injury was legitimate. you wouldn’t give a guy a phantom injury if you’re trying to trade him.

he’s under contract for a few more seasons with only one semi-substantial cost-wise one next season haven’t watched him play recently but if he’s still playing at a high level and Tennessee is giving him away then it makes a lot of sense youre not going to get what he offers from whatever 6th round pick that fans pins so much of their hopes to, and Young needs to have the conviction that comes with a legitimate boundary receiver youre not going to fix the roster in one offseason and these are the kind of moves a building team needs to look in on

You can acquire players cheaper in season than you can in the off-season. If the right player who can be a legitimate long term piece is there for the right price then go ahead and make a trade. But they shouldn’t go fireselling their own guys. it’s a quick hit of dopamine for the fanbase to see the endless hope of a DRAFT PICK (while the player in question goes and becomes and MVP candidate) before reality comes missiling back to earth the following season when mid round picks play like mid round picks

yeah there’s this weird narrative of “trading away stuff is how things got so bad” the front office-either this one or the next- is going to be operating under the practical expectation that this is a young team, not a bad one. they need to be building. The only people who believe things should be completely torn down to the foundation are people who had flawed, emotional expectations for where a team with a rookie QB and an entirely new coaching staff should be

You can’t wade half way into the water and then get cold feet. They need to build a long term offense. Half measures and timidity after you’ve been aggressive would be disastrous. They need to be investigating.

we lead the league in pass attempts for some reason

He should’ve been regarded as a backup this season coming off the injury, allowing him to stay in game shape, still contribute, while not putting such a big workload on him, as you anticipated getting him back to full strength next season. His game is centered around being a quick twitch guy and with that asset diminished he was always going to struggle this season. Genuinely befuddling how they were so sure he was going to simply pick up where he left off.

yeah sure they’ll probably be bad for a few seasons. It happens. They’ve been one of the league’s most talented teams for a while, and it’s been because they’ve haven’t chained themselves to the salary cap, and they’ve had a lot of success to show for it. even if it gets to the point, and I’m not really sure exactly what people are expecting but it appears to be some fantastical dream amongst panthers fans that the league will step in, demand they start paying respect to the cap, and then they have to cut a bunch of guys and are now a bad team-EVEN IF IT GETS to that very unlikely point-who cares? Look at the window they’ve bought themselves.

if the “kIcK tHe CaN” philosophy buys you the kind of prolonged window the saints have had then by all means sign me up No offense but I don’t get how anyone is still making chicken analogies at this point

lol are you serious

Passed on a lot of great players. This forum went absolutely gaga over fitterer for this draft because they finally went and did what people wanted them to do: move down, stockpile lots of late picks, loads of cheap contracts went as expected. You don’t build a great team by having copious amounts of late picks. 9 dimes don’t equal a dollar.

they have him mostly lined up as a 5, team website depth charts are just for fans.

There’s no reason to move him. You’re not going to get anything for him in return that you wouldn’t get at this point next season if we’re still having this same discussion. Having him under control at low cost for an additional season outpaces the late pick you’d get for moving him.

pretty sure Wilson is a 5 and frankly if a team calls offering you a pass rusher entering his prime for a guy who isn’t part of the long term plan you take that deal frankly the panthers should also get a high pick with this trade

I’ve been operating under the impression that they were waiting until after the bye to get that influx back, if they’re looking at the schedule and thinking “yeah we don’t need them for this game, let’s let ‘em rest” then lol. these three games are much friendlier than what they’ve had-they need to be all in trying to win a couple of them.

definitely be watching to see what the cost is, these are the doors you gotta knock on when you’re building a team, especially when you’ve moved a couple high picks

“I don’t know what you’re saying Bryce no throw ball far”

it’s honestly not just the protection up front, even if that’s obviously biggest component Marshall pulling up vs Atlanta gets a lot of criticism, but we’ve been late getting upfield at various points. The Mingo “overthrow” against the saints was exactly where it needed to be, and would’ve been a touchdown if the Z hadn’t let the DB jam the route so easily at the intersection of the rub that Mingo and whoever was outside ran into each other It’s always something little like that, and when you’re trying to throw the ball down the field, things generally need to be perfect

ahhhh I’m starting to see what the real agenda against Bryce is here to my point, there are absolutely things that Young does well that the Facebook rabble of this board isn’t going to comprehend but incredible for where he is at as a player-and yes-outpace where Newton was at. the effiency of movement that Bryce has dwarfs Cam, who generally labored to do anything concisely and thus he to be relied upon as a battering ram in short yardage situations. There’s a rampant myth that Rivera “ruined” Cam by running him in goal to go situations but the reality is is that Cam simply was not quick enough in tight field scenarios to routinely make those throws. They utilized his skillset and what he did well like a good coach should. Young has been excellent in those scenarios and the elasticity allows him to get it out even quicker. Cam was always a see it throw it kind of QB-something Young already does at a high level. Again, Facebook fans may not value it-but layering the ball (again, something Cam seldom did, as he generally had to rifle every ball into windows to compensate for the delay, ultimately putting a lot of strain on his shoulder) into a window before the receiver even gets there is an elite trait that scouts beg for for a guy at this stage in his career. There’s also the body control-most of Cam’s offlooks were scripted or preplanned and generally just revolves around a rapid fire headfake that seldom did its job. Bryce not only organically looks off DBs, but incorporâtes his shoulders into the bait, and-will use general pocket movement to shift defensive linemen so that he can work back to a more desirable side. He isn’t just moving away from pressure-He is literally moving the entire defense away from where he wants the ball to go. This is where the Brees comparison came from in college: this is such a rare trait, and it’s starting my to manifest at the next level. i get that most fans generally cannot perceive most of what they’re watching, but when you’re outright proud of how little you know I begin to have a problem. Every time I see someone make a processor “joke” and then follow it up by blathering on about NEED TO SEE THE BOMB I cringe

Your definition of “limitations” is is he big enough or fast enough to be a force multiplier in the run game and it’s far, far too narrow view of QB play. There are traits he has, right now, and demonstrates, that some QBs never do. There are things he does better of the bus-right now-better than Cam Newton. QB ceilings are not defined by physical attributes

what you just said isn’t even logically consistent to itself