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it doesn’t even really make sense, Young made heavy use of an explosive vertical threat at Alabama and having one on the field loosens things underneath.

is this meant to be a joke about how the panthers always get plundered in trades? dropping 16 spots for some developmental piece is laughable

It’s better value at a more significant position at a position of need in a good range that will have guys available who got pushed down

he’s explosive out of his breaks, he has a skill set you don’t typically get your hands on in the second round, he uses his head to sell fakes, he has explosiveness to create lots of separation after a misstep. were in the second round, all these guys have knocks against him but he has first round value and offers a tool that you don’t typically find in the second. Getting a Jaylen waddle type dynamo for the QB who played with him.

I’m not really sure where the “he was so great as a rookie” narrative came from. If cj Henderson didn’t exist he would’ve been the goat of that second Tampa game in which he had a number of key whiffs. obviously as a rookie you overlook it but then he was horrid last season. Hes physically talented and the option always exists to kick him inside (or does it?) but I have concerns. He was a key conduit for how bad the line and the offense was last season.

I’m starting to gravitate to Worthy a bit.

without really getting into the weeds on Leggette, the argument that they JUST drafted a H/W/S guy and thus don’t need another one is pretty bad

I mean i thought it was pretty clear from the verbiage I used that I wasn’t laying down hard science but, as you have noted “top 30 at position” seems like a pretty loose definition of success, as does someone’s mere presence on an nfl roster I'm not the type to overrate later picks needing to be stars but I’d define a late first/early second rounder as someone I really want to be a real quality starter

I wasn’t talking about us.

the hit ratio on these high second (and late first) edge types feels like it’s awful, I’ve become really leery of it

the guys 25-40 are generally all really similar, having two picks in that range isn’t too bad and the team is in a position where they are going to have to make up ground on this rebuild, so I probably wouldn’t implode if they turned it down. but an extra 1 to bandage the 2 were missing next season is probably more value in any case I don’t think anyone is actually offering a future 1 for anybody in this class

With 39 in hand a future 1 would be hard to turn down

That’s great but until it’s more commonplace then you’re gonna have a latent advantage for teams that tamper illegally versus teams that don’t. “Legal tampering wasn’t designed to combat tampering, it was acknowledging that you couldn’t fight it and you were forcing the idea of a fair opportunity also I think staying home isn’t quite the same.

the “legal tampering” period is pointless. it was said on the radio that the panthers reached out to Luvu after the burns trade but were told “he had already agreed to a deal.” No, he hadn’t. The contract wasn’t signed. But these handshake agreements these teams are reaching with players are seemingly ironclad, and I cannot recall an example of a player agreeing to sign somewhere before being approached with a better deal and reneging on the deal in hand. i get it, principally, if you agree to do something, it is honorable to do it. But it has completely defeated the point of the “legal tampering” window and effectively free agency just starts a little bit earlier than it did before, and the same teams that were cheating before are cheating now. a proper “legal tampering” window should be nice and quiet, with teams negotiating over the course of the window. The news getting out should lead to the concern that your team may get one upped.

they gave one player a $100 million dollar contract

He always has decent seasons, he’s just completely destroyed his ability to ever really build a name for himself by being a mercenary determined to maximize his dollar value down to the penny every single offseason the guy could’ve gone somewhere and really been a franchise icon but he’s been obsessed with squeezing every drop of money he can, and I guess that’s his prerogative to do. if it were me though, and it isn’t, but if it were, actually embracing a city and being embraced in return and never having to buy my own meal again seems like something worth having he’s a good player.

reminder that the bears wanted Brian burns, could’ve shipped the disgruntled player off then and kept the offensive piece who was already under contract (and loved this team) for your rookie QB

I absolutely theorize that they have some super secret diamond in the rough they’ve discovered that is helping justify these decisions also, every other team has discovered this guy and he will go way before the panthers

I see what they’re doing by transplanting resources from defense to offense, but this doesn’t really feel like the “we’ve got a rookie QB contract” move ala Jalen Ramsey to rams or tyreek hill to dolphins type. they’re just trying to get to a baseline, interior line is a position you can get great players at early 2nd, and now they’re going to have to take swings at lower % positions in those rounds they were going to have to take chances because they’ve shipped away so many great players for such little in return, but this isn’t a calculated one. Feels more like they’re trying to make a statement about COMMITTING TO OFFENSE or whatever.

they just spent 100 million dollars on a guard lol at anyone that thinks they’re tanking

I want to see Derrick brown moved to a major media market team in exchange for a 4th and 6th round pick we’ve got to continue doing our part to help keep the league’s legacy teams afloat

lol we have the top pick in every round, which direction could we possibly go? Did Morgan move down in the 3rd to seal the deal?

Teams know they can come to us to get good players at fire sale prices

LOL

doesn’t really sell with me friend. We’re talking about giving up our only remaining pass rusher against an supposed deep crop of bidders. You drive the price up as long as possible. The cap will be fine in the interim. signing those replacement pass rushers makes you look less desperate to get something done, but here we are again with the team telegraphing that they have to get some thing done. “It doesn’t bother me if this doesn’t happen” is the most empowering position of any negotiation and hedge fund guy had persistently failed to perceive this in the football world