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I’m sure the giants 70th overall pick will replace both him and Burns effectively

why trade now? why not at the last trade deadline or the upcoming one when teams tend to buy higher? what fanciful draft night trade have they convinced themselves they’re going to pull off with a couple extra twos that they’re going to get burned on when that “secret” player they think they’ve discovered gets drafted way higher than they’re expecting?

This franchise is honestly a dream come true for the league. How many pro bowlers have we offloaded to the legacy teams for pennies on the dollar? Derrick Brown is gonna look so good in black and gold.

we should throw in brown to sweeten the deal too

ah yes, the ole “equivalent value” we were sold when they gave the OPOY away to another big market franchise for the media to coo and squeal over

They’re not parting with their 1st so there’s no real reason to negotiate with the giants.

he has to be close to some kind of record for most head coaches played with for one team

could you imagine the shot of life that a player like mccaffery could’ve been to a rookie QB with a porous offensive line could have been i recall at a lot of points especially prior to the reich firing that we didn’t even deploy a back as a check down option

some stooge for some big market team thought he was about to plunder the dumb little market team with the stupid owner for a great player and he’d get lots of butt pats for it and when he realized it wasn’t going to happen he got mad, these guys always feel like they’re entitled to players on bad teams and throw a fit when it doesn’t happen “adapt to present circumstances” the circumstances: Burns nets a first plus or we just simply elect to keep a good player at a premium position. Pay the asking price.

I think we’ve all seen firsthand that trading a good player for a 2/3/4 isn’t really worth the compensation

If this isn’t the kind of player you “break the bank” for then who is? were discussing under the pretense of a player swap including burns anyways.

Hall of honor time

No that was just me spamming threads with my disappointment, a very large portion of the people here were thrilled

Clearly I was making fun of you not the team

what are you even talking about

People here were so jacked they got some mid round picks for mccaffery

you don’t have to buy it but it’s absolutely the most objective narrative and the only counter argument is “but you’ve gotta understand that Matt Ryan is tall” the team told the story of how the decision made in the middle of the honey moon phase, Fowler corroborates what they told us here frank reich wanted Bryce young

https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/19essl4/scott_fowler_i_will_tell_you_that_frank_reich_was/

I think this is the biggest issue here in the evaluation of Bryce, people think “what we gave up for him!!!!” is a relevant part of the evaluation process the only way at all that has anything to contribute to the discussion is the dearth of resources to support the young QB rookie QBs aren’t expected to immediately “elevate the franchise!” just because fans dread being bored during draft season

Can you break down why you feel Canales’ offensive tendencies aren’t effective, why you feel he’s a poor communicator, his eye for talent, etc so that we might better understand

Did we? we liked the staff, nobody liked the HC hire, felt a whole lot like the Dan Quinn hire

When you draft a QB you’re going to put the infrastructure in place to allow him to develop. There may be a show me the baby component with the fan base who dismiss poor offensive line play, a lack of explosiveness at the skill positions, an antiquated offense that doesn’t cater to the player’s skill set, but providing these things isn’t “doubling down” it’s singling down. And as always, the boom or bust nature of rookie qbs is part of the appeal. if Young doesn’t develop over the next season or two, the panthers will be in a prime position to draft another QB high instead of returning to qb purgatory with the veteran band aids that perpetually tantalize everyone here so much.

my concern is that Tepper loves the Seahawks and is tantalized by the idea of stacking a bunch of Seahawks background guys together (especially after the lack of uniformity in the last bloc was considered a primary contributor to it’s failure.) why would Tepper love the Seahawks? The “forward thinking” grandstanding they’re known for. Scott Fitterer muttering something in his interview about Microsoft was part of the reason he got hired. seattle fluked into a great coach and a great QB and they dragged a lot of stupid drafting and dumb trades along with them for the duration of their stint there but to an outsider it looks like “wow what a well ran team.”

I like Slowik’s San Fran connections and I like that McDonald is ravens ecosystem material along with having a cup of coffee with Harbaugh, but I’d need to see his offensive vision and connections and they need to be really good. I do feel like McDonald probably has the highest floor but the stat about every single team in the league switching OCs going back to the start of last season is absolutely outrageous. You have to have some offensive continuity and you have to have a strong offensive mind. with the Morgan hiring I honestly don’t really like the idea of Canales. I don’t really respect Seattle organizationally and there’s way too much seahawk ethos in that bloc. that said you can’t evaluate guys simply on the basis of where they cut their teeth, if you did then Morgan wouldn’t have a job here and Canales does provide a track record of success in the passing game so I would definitely support the hiring but I feel like with Slowik you’re getting that plus a healthy outside viewpoint from a successful coaching tree.

I’d like to start hearing names for the staffs these guys would assemble. I get the Canales appeal but I feel like you’re hiring him, not really sure about the connections he’s built on back of his specific resume’.