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Pie for spider net. That is the post.

Called it.

I don't see Walker getting cut, Rhule guy, and there's nothing Grier is clearly better at. If anything I could see them try to trade him for a conditional late round pick. It honestly doesn't matter who QB 3 is, if we're down to the 3rd guy the season is a wrap.

Rhys Lloyd & Jon Kasay

Was Christensen a RT at BYU? I understand where you're going with this though -- Godfrey, Sherrod Martin, Rashaun Gaulden, etc. Hurney really sucked at identifying Safety talent, and took a 3rd round QB when we could've just signed a veteran over CGJ, who of course ends up in NO.

I'd like to see: Left to Right - Moton / Elflein / Paradis / Brown / Christensen I think we see this line-up by mid-season.

Look at the Bears offense....now look at ours. QBs are not saviors of franchises like that -- the Brady / Manning / Brees / Rodgers QBs are generational. The way football is now you need +athleticism / talent. Fields puts you in the Jackson / Murray field allowing you to vary your pass / run game as the QB is ALWAYS a threat. We lessened that with the signing of Teddy, and even more so moving to Darnold, not to say I haven't seen his highlights on a read option, but it's less a part of the function of the offense as it is an option. Cardinals trending up, and the Ravens have been a playoff teams since Lamar became the starter. All I'm saying is we had a chance to draft a very talented QB, and settled on the one we traded for because we traded for him. I we could move TB we could have moved Darnold and his at the time 4M in salary with little hit to the cap.

That's the point, he seems to never be able to get one. I don't think anyone is questioning the coaching, just the fact QB has been a pain point. Similar to how we struggled to draft receivers for YEARS. Whether it was Hurney or Gettleman we could not bridge the gap from Smith to the next, we were fortunate with Curtis back in 17' then landing Moore in 18' that was a 4 and 5 year stretch post Smith's release. KB, injured and out of shape, Funchess never lived up to his potential even when he was made the #1 in 2018.

We PASSED on Fields for a corner, albeit a corner that's likely to be damn good, but we passed on Fields and talked ourselves into a QB saying things like ''well if Darnold came out this year he'd be behind Trevor Lawrence''. BUT, he didn't come out this year, he came out 3 years ago....sigh* I don't HATE the Darnold move, I'd rather they both be on the roster with not 18.8M guaranteed to Darnold in 2022. I hope it all works out.

Play Design - I'd say 8.5 - 9 out of 10 Play-calling in 2020 - 6.5 - 7 out of 10 Overall I think we have a good OC that is still growing into that role at the NFL level, from ''Collegiate Passing Game Coordinator'' to ''OC" is a HUGE jump. I think we have more in place at all spots on offense, and even with the concern over the OL, I'd wager it's a little better off than last season, it stands to reason we should be pretty good on offense especially if the defense is as good as it is on paper at the key spots.

OP is reminiscing on the ''older'' Drew Brees. When they had guys like Colston, Devry Henderson, Robert Meachum, and a handful of others they challenged deep often, same for LSU. The thing was they could ALSO dice you up underneath when you played to protect versus big plays, as Drew's arm weakened they became more of a run / defensive oriented team with a shot here and there just to keep you honest.

I think that is what the staff realized over the course of the season, remember that 4th and 9 play, and Teddy through the shallow 2 yard crosser... I think that was the point where they knew internally he was reluctant to throw it down field regularly when available. IMO TB plays to protect his stats aka maintaining 60+ % completion, he knew he wasn't guaranteed anything outside of an absurd amount of money, but as we all saw getting out of that contract wasn't too difficult. I think he played for the next stop, keep the % up, and the turnovers low and you'll always have a job, he got his 20+M and moved on.

https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-trade-for-kicker-ryan-santoso Ryan Santoso

Finesserer fixed it for you.

I wonder if they use those big helmet pads like I've seen on our guys?

We don't have enough depth to release off ball LBs.

Why are people freaking out, it's a two year deal, and we have DJ in his 4th year now, we have his 5th year picked up, and IF ABSOLUTELY NEEDED the franchise tag. DJ isn't going anywhere, this is set up to let Robbie play and transition to a DJ & TMJ led WR core in 2023.

Why did we not take that Guard, and then in the ''Confidential'' video they're all excited about taking a LS in the 6th. I'm still annoyed by that. Also UDFA Davide Moore, I'm surprised we moved on so quickly.

It's not that he sucks, I think most simply believe Fields is more talented, and better overall for the team in the long run. I would wager several hope to have their skepticism of Darnold and to some degree this coaching staff alleviated with a high level of play. Darnold had all the clout coming out as a rookie, and he's just 23 so we will see.

There were a few plays the first drive in the RZ with a lead blocker, Ricci, and Thompson.

Enjoy...

At the very least with all the day 2 trading Mond should have been in the mix for one of those spots just because PJ, and Grier have no futures beyond career back ups.

I'm just saying top talents don't leave their teams, extensions and Franchise Tags prevent that, if we were to get a guy it'd be ala the Peyton Manning / Tom Brady route old with a small window. Could that happen with a guy like Rodgers, or if Russell is unhappy in SEA who knows. It's why you draft the young man with talent when you have the chance. Coaching guys up is part of it, but just like Chip Kelley found out the NFL is not ''plug and play'' and I feel like that's what we're doing. When I watch the clips it sounds like they talked themselves into Darnold thinking that Fields wouldn't fall once SF moved up. Then when Fields was there and we'd given up 3 picks for Darnold to save face they took BPA at a position of need ON DEFENSE. After literally DEVOTING the entire 2020 class to defense. I like the class this year, if you swap Fields for Horn, man oh man. That's something to HAVE BEEN excited about as we move forward. With Darnold, most are annoyed because he hasn't been good, and now we're stuck hoping we can 'turn it around' the 'fresh start' narrative. When was the last time that worked? Not being facetious I'm genuinely asking, when was the last young failed QB picked up and went onto to NFL success.... Gabbert, Rosen, Haskins, Bortles, Mariotta, WInston (maybe TBD), EJ Manuel, etc. all no's.

This ^^^ you are what you are and there were three years to look at Darnold, I get all the Gase and NYJ roster lacking talent, but you say add Darnold to our talent...ok a step further now add Justin Fields to -- CMC / DJ / Robbie / TMJ etc. That is easily one of the most DYNAMIC offenses in the league and we haven't even touched on the TE's, Shi who looks like a Day 1 or 2 pick as well as Chuba.

This RARELY if ever happens in a Franchise QB's prime, they all get paid of FT'ed, this isn't the answer or really even the hope. Which is why passing on the talent of Fields looks idiotic, and short sighted. Trading for Sam is fine, but are you really hedging your coaching career to a QB who even before Gase hadn't shown a lot? I like Darnold seems like a good dude, but I'm choosing Fields over him each time.