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This aged well, lol! Now 2 TDs in rofl!

I'm on the ''should have drafted Fields'' train, I said this leading up to and after the draft. I will support the QB I have. and Horn's talent likely can't be denied. But an elite athletically gifted QB, plus the rookie QB salary, plus not giving Sam 18.8M in 2022 to have even more cap to retain our best is the smart move to me long-term. We are a rebuilding team, and when you do that, you use new bricks, not recycled ones. I think they simply got a guy they are comfortable with, if they turn him around and the team is 7-9 wins they all look like genius' but if this flakes, IMO Rhule is on a short least as this will be two years in a row that '' you got your guy'' and now he's gone. Sam has 3 years of NFL experience, to me this is a put up or shut up year, you'd have more leniency with a rookie, even if he sat behind Sam, that's what killed it for me, KC had a perennial playoff team, and still took a QB. We're not GB with Rodgers, we have ZERO QB options behind Sam, and if he flakes, or is injured we're in the same boat in 2022. Bad planning IMO.

I think they've moved off of Okung unless an injury happens, feel like a saw a tweet that basically alluded to the fact he didn't feel the offers he was getting were respectable. IMO, I can't see us going past Week 4 without looking at something in regard to LT -- vet cuts, FA signing, etc. Cam Erving is also not the most dependable when it comes to health. I'm curious to see the solution this year.

Listed at 5'11 / 6' based on where you look, but weighs 210 lbs...That's RB weight which is why he's so good through contact after the catch.

I dunno, feels like most talking heads have been giving him the benefit of the doubt coming off that Jets stint and the turn-around Tannehill saw once he went to a more talented / better coached roster. DJ & Robby are 1K + receivers, CMC is a 1K + runner / receiver -- there's only a handful of teams with a better top 3. If the combination of Arnold / Thomas / Tremble can give us 800 yards collectively our offense will be looking like one of the best IF Darnold's decision making in NY was an aberration based on trying to do too much too often / bad personnel / coaching.

Fox is Smaller than Yetur by 2 inches in height, and 5lbs in weight.

If you're asking about fan fest, I can't say it looked like ''that'' many people, but it was a good turn out I'd say.

No he has not, friend lawyer of the owner was leading the charge on this when he originally wanted to opt out. Last I heard a few of these women didn't want to go public which could lead to a dismissal. Its also still a civil matter versus criminal. So until proven guilty, I'd be ok adding a bona-fide star QB versus hoping we resurrect Sam. I personally wanted Fields.

What everyone forgets about Rhule and it's likely because he came from Baylor...he's a DEFENSIVE MINDED COACH, same as Rivera. The difference is he's open to modern data / analytics over Ron, and let's call it ''traditional gut instincts''. It's why the entire FIRST draft class, and the #1 pick for us at 8 was ALL DEFENSIVE players. Rhule wants to be able to STOP other teams, not just score with them. I've said this a few times, even after the Darnold trade, I'd have taken Fields, QB is FAR TOO IMPORTANT not to take the swings when they are available. WR depth / quality can be found on day 2, and 3, and money saved on a rookie deal at QB allows cap to sign a high end DB if you elect not to draft one. QB / Pass Pro / Pass Rush -- are the most important things in that order this day and age.

I think I'd have to go with: Moton / Elflein / Paradis / Miller / Christensen I like Erving more as a back up, but they paid him starter money so it's his job to lose, Moore is a UDFA, let him be G/ C depth. As poorly as Little played at times, he had a couple moments, as I recall some pancakes on runs / screens. Scott I also like as depth, and same for Daley. I hope to goodness we're able to bring in even slight upgrades to depth after final cuts. The line I referenced I think allows us to be more functional, I think I trust the rookie more at RT, than a journeyman in Erving, we're talking his 4th team in less than 6 years roughly. To me that's not a positive indictment on a guy.

We look more like a 3-4 defense now more than then...even if we play Over / Under 4-3 alignments. DL - Brown / Jones / Fox Edge - Burns / Reddick ILB - Perryman / Shaq CB - Horn / Jackon S - Chinn / Burriss (for now) Then we'd see guys like Matos, and the others in the nickel sets, and in some of the even fronts as well, I expect a lot of mixed fronts, not much we can't do alignment wise.

I like Robbie but he's 29 and in the last year of his 2yr / 20M deal and costs 12M versus the cap if memory serves this season. I think we could've come out this situation a bit better, move Robbie for a pick, FT Moton, and extend Samuel. Knowing how the draft fell Marshall replaces Robbie on the perimeter, Curtis stays as a move guy that works out of the slot, and DJ is the primary. Just my opinion, I don't agree with Curtis being over-rated, he was one of the best on 3rd down. Robbie is a Rhule guy though.

To a team that HAS A QB, AND OWES A TON OF MONEY TO.

As most of you know by now the Moton extension freed up 10M in cap space, putting us in a pretty solid spot financially with 24M available. I think Rhule outlined last off-season that they'd like to carry at least 6-8M into the regular season to account for unforeseen circumstances, so for the sake of argument, let's say we have a functional 17M (average of 6 & 8 is 7). Names like Clinton-Dix were already in camp for try-outs, and recently Kawaan Short was cleared and recently featured in a picture with Derrick Brown and Bravvion Roy (see twitter / instagram) Knowing that DL & S aside from OL are weak points, who out of the available free agents draws the most interest from you? S - Chinn / Burris / Robinson / Clinton-Dix** DL - Brown / Jones / Roy / Nixon / Short** I don't hate those additions as depth / rotational players on 1-yr deals, which is likely any team would offer, while still having youth at those positions* Available Free Agents - https://nfltraderumors.co/top-50-2021-nfl-free-agents/ Based on this list, there's a few names that at least stand out to me: OL - Okung is better than -- Erving / Little / Scott IDL - KK Short / Jurrell Casey / Damon Harrison as another space eater Off Ball LB - KJ Wright (Fitterer ties) / Kwon Alexander / Mychal Kendricks (Fitterer ties) Edge - Justin Houston / Olivier Vernon / Ezekiel Ansah (Fitterer ties) / Bruce Irvin (Fitterer & CAR ties)

He needs to be considering we passed on a top rookie QB prospect. We seem to be taking the SF approach of build the BEST possible team, and insert QBs as needed if one doesn't work out. With the notion that IF we have a complete team we can mortgage picks to move up if needed, but if Darnold aka our Garoppollo works out then ok to that as well.

This 100%, Sam was not so PROVEN that you bring him in WITH NO COMPETITION and he only costed 4M at that time, you take the QB when they're there because the position is that important. You'd always be able to trade Sam just like we did T2G down the line.

The NFL is the NFL, even on the worst teams. I think the turn-around could be more similar to Baker and CLE vs Tannehill and TEN. Freddie Kitchens had no idea what he was doing. I want us to win with whoever is under-center, I just preferred the talent / monetary value Fields provided at #8 over a corner. Look at the last several SB winning / participating teams, none of them had high end DB pedigree, they all had top end QB play, and / or weapons ALL OVER on offense, and a pass rush, with at least one high end back end safety. You're not looking at -- LAR (One of the best offenses in the league THAT year) / KC, and TB enough said, it's an embarrassment of riches for each / SF best run game in the NFL with Deebo, and Kittle, top tier pash rush (Sherman past his prime) I'm not ignoring defense, but winning teams can score at a high clip, and have enough defense to match that at the premium spots. I like to idea of building a full defenses, just not at the expense of a QB at #8. With all the trades we made, we could have added corner depth.

As much as anyone else, I want us to WIN, however I don't let common sense elude me either. At least I try not to. I don't care who the QB is IF WE'RE WINNING. I just don't like the idea of signing / trading for unproven talent, because we're on the hook for 18M, and if he's good ''IF'' we're looking at paying PREMIUM QB money in just 2 seasons. Where as if Fields hit's his potential, you have up to 5 years of modest QB money, and with all the young guys we have coming up, we'd have less need to let 1 or 2 walk, especially considering the savings on Shaq's contract in a season or two (20-25M in savings in 22 / 23 if memory serves).

Teddy had weapons, even with CMC out of the line up. People defending Cam because people know what he's capable of. QB's or ''a'' QB (Tannehill), who else thrived after Gase, also Tannehill had already ''earned'' an extension prior to Gase's arrival he was already proven, he regressed under Gase THEN returned to form in TEN. Darnold hadn't even convinced the team that drafted him to keep him, there's a difference.

His 4th camp.... His 1st with us, a lot of the same excuses / hype were made for T2G, I'm waiting to see. However; I was 100% on board with Fields, talent / value of the rookie contract with Sam AT THAT TIME only on a 1yr / 4M deal. I would have let them battle it out in camp, and used the money to sign a corner this off-season or next. I'd have been ok going after a Peterson, Sam doesn't strike me as a get us to the playoffs talent, and I don't see anything in his game that could be considered elite -- at least with guys like Cam (early), Lamarr, Russel, Kyler, and even Josh Allen is they possess upper tier athleticism so even if you say they process slower: 1) You have to account for them in the run game, short yardage / redzone 2) Limits man coverage as the DBs eyes are off the QB 3) Makes the HB better Now if you want to throw in the OSU QB stigma, USC HAS THAT SAME STIGMA (Leinart, Sanchez, JDB, Barkley, etc.)

They can eat it pretty easily IF it was necessary. Its just a safety net if he plays well. And isn't to high to eat if we make a move.

I think skipping on Fields will come back to bite us, and I am in full acknowledgement of the talent Jaycee Horn could turn out to be. I just don't think you essentially sell out for Darnold, those rookie QB contracts on TALENTED QBs which is what Justin is are too valuable to just pass on. 18M guaranteed / 22M over these next two seasons, while also eating the dead cap from getting the Teddy decision wrong and having to trade him is a bitter pill to swallow. That's money for guys we need to extend in the next few years IMO: Moton, Robby's deal ends this year (Marshall was drafted but is unproven), DJ Moore, Burns will soon follow. It's a lot easier to keep that talent together with a rookie QB deal, and if Sam DOES show up, you can count on losing a stud or 2 when we're forced to pay market value in 2023. Maybe Shaq's money can help prevent that to some degree, but the point is that I'm not sure we made the best ''long term'' decision. Sam seems like a way to say we improved by winning 7 games versus 5. And if that's the jump, I'd argue we'd be able to do that with a Justin Fields.

I think we keep 6, thinking about the NFC South / longer season we'll need depth. 8, 26, 24 -- as the ''starters'' 29, 25, 28 -- ''rotational'' depth I think the kid ''28'' Keith Taylor out of WAS will edge out STO III, but I think STO III will end up on the PS.

This is why you draft Fields at 8, and have a QB on a rookie deal for 4 years plus the 5th year option. I understand the DB need, but I'm not sold on Sam same way I wasn't on TB. And he's locked in for 18M next year.