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Adam Thielen had 1000 yards with rookie Bryce. I guess he's using that as comparison. Just kidding. Calm down.

Honestly. You can see it on the field. Bryce will literally skip a pass on the ground rather than throw a contested catch to XL. Especially when it's one where XL would have to fight back to the ball. Coker is actually really good at that. Coker lacks real NFL speed (not a small thing), but he maxes out in most other categories.

Yeah, he also said Mingo was the guy. Guess .500 is better then .000

Agree TMac has elite potention. But for right now, who would you throw to with the game on the line? One play to win it all? Who would get open? Who would you trust most to make the catch right now?

Not to mention DJ Moore at WR, probably Jalen Carter instead of moving up to get BY (he would have fallen right in our laps - Carter and Derrick Brown, damn!), anyone but Mingo since we'd still have DJ. Not sure CMC would be here. That wasn't a move for a QB. But not giving up draft picks for Sam Darnold too. You can't get into the habit of switching QBs like that. It could take a decade before you find the guy. And another 5-10 years to rebuild the rest of the team because of what you gave up to get them. Build the team, then get the QB. Sure, take a flyer on a day 2/3 guy in the draft or a FA as a project. But changing QBs, HCs and GMs every year or so is not a recipe for success.

I watch quite a few games too, so hear you on that. Question for you... Do you think Bryce would be better if he took more shots downfield, or do you think he wouldn't be able to pull it off because of limitations?

I know one team that would choose him over the first round WR they traded up to get.

Not bold at all. Actually very conservative. Malik could become worse than Bryce on his worst days for all we know. Picking him up as a backup with backup money and expectations is fine (with an opportunity to win the position), but penciling him in as the starter over BY is probably not prudent.

Plus a couple of stand up LBs, and a couple of offensive guys that make defenders miss in the open field (WR, RB or TE), a real Nickel and a true FS type that can cover. Other than that, we're pretty good.

That's an overly optimistic take. Particularly because of the limited action part. To say you'd take that guy over any 3 years starter in the NFL is a tough one. The devil you know is better than the one you don't. We have no idea who Malik Willis is or will be because he hasn't played enough.

I mean I don't know the down and distance, but this can't be the answer for "show me how defenses play the run and force Bryce Young to beat you". There are only 4 d linemen and maybe 1 LB on the field. They are obviously playing the pass. And yes, Bryce missed multiple opportunities in that game with too many dink and dunks and locking onto WRs from the snap. He isn't normally THAT bad though. This was probably the worse I've ever seen him.

So yall are out on Bryce, but in on Malik Willis? That's... interesting.

If a "bridge" QB beats him out then so be it. Just can't see paying $10M+ per or giving up picks.

Right. but no extension for Bryce yet. 5th year option? Sure. I think Bryce's camp will agree they aren't in the best place to demand an extension or top dollar.

If they can bring in competition that doesn't prevent them from bringing in definite starters at other positions of need, then they should ABSOLUTELY do that. No questions asked. But there are way too many holes on this team that need to be addressed before going all out to get a QB. FTR, the same was true in 2023.

ok?...

Oh I don't disagree that Carolina was the master of their own fate and put it into ATL's hands. Not a great look. But getting into the playoffs for a team as young and devoid of talent as this one is no small feat. The margin of error in the NFL is miniscule. One play. One player falling down or slipping. One bad penalty call (or two, or three, or four) could be the difference in winning or losing.

Agree, they could have. But Tampa could have just beaten Carolina both times. Or Atlanta could have beaten Carolina and Tampa like the Saints did. The point is a team had to get in. The best team based on tiebreaker rules. It wasn't luck. No one pulled a name out a hat. Carolina won the division. They weren't gifted it.

I keep seeing this in the Huddle. But which WR since 2023 has gone to another team and done better? Just one has even really played for another team. And his numbers aren't even remotely as good as they were when he was here - Adam Thielen in case you haven't figured it out.

There was a 3 way record tie in the division. Any team was going to back in to the playoffs via tiebreaker. Why not Carolina if we won the right games to get us in?

No 89?

Yall are a little unrealistic. This is the first time in his 3 years that this QB has had a roster they could actuallyt win with - and we're in the playoffs. No one to throw to and the worst interior oline this franchise has ever fielded as a rookie. Defense was meh but would get worse. Second season Derrick Brown gets injured for the year in the first game and we march out the worst run defense (and possibly overall defense) in the history of the NFL. So many on here talking about an average QB would have this team with 12+ wins. You're delusional. How many games would we have won last season with just an average defense? KC, Philly and the first TB games off the top of my head. And that's with Thielen as your best receiver, rookie XL and rookie Coker. David Moore was the second best receiver last season. David Moore. This season the defense has improved but we're lining up too many rookies to make it to the playoffs on both sides of the ball, yet here we are. I ain't saying Bryce Young is the answer, but he has been a big part of some big wins this season. I'm hopeful that we'll see improvement when he has more time with this very young receiving corp. Remember, they're learnig how to be pros at the same time as we're going to the playoffs. The only veteran receiving presence we've had this year is Tommy Tremble. We could actually see big improvement if David Moore comes back healthy. And that is saying alot.

I just want them to go all out. Playcalling, passing, running, catching, everything. Everybody act like they're playing with house money and throw caution to the wind. This playing not to lose thing is not the way.

Now come on. So Bryce Young offers no value to this offense? Ever? Come on PNW. I think Bryce Young would be a much more successful player if he was drafted by Philly.

So you think Hurts took Philly to the Super Bowl then, right? I disagree. I think he was a passenger but he wasn't driving the ship.