saX man

Yup. He's saying we're setting ourselves up to be competent rather than a contender. So in a way, your bolded is correct. Issue being, it may be a job saving approach rather than contender building approach and our build with him seems messy, reactive, and ill-planned. However, you're right in that it doesn't mean he can't improve, if we win, people could change their tune on Rhule. He was really liked after the AZ game his first year, and again after 3-0 last year. My biggest concern is we've been operating like a fringe/high-level contender with the way we've been throwing around our assets and not really seeing results/we keep stopping our own momentum. My memory gets fuzzy pre-99ish since I was 12ish and it's just hard to clearly think back on that long ago, but this team does look to be the best we've fielded in some time. So the experience of the new staff and experienced players may propel us to 9/10 wins. I'll stay hopeful, but it's an odd spot to be in. Rhule on the hot seat, Corral being our only QB signed on for 23, will need some roster movement/cap adjustments to make room for Baker, but he's still TBD. If we go 10-7 wildcard and he has a 4000/28TD/14INT type line, are we happy? I just don't know. 9-8 just miss out, Baker looks decent is the base line expectation considering this roster. Time will tell! Excited for the year regardless.

We've built a top-half of league roster that can be capable of winning ~10-9 games in a best case. We're set up for a dead end; maybe finding a QB in Baker. But Baker is most likely what we've seen from him, it's unlikely he'll become some 35 TD QB instantly for us so are we really gonna dish him $35+ mil next year? Mays put it best on The Athletic Football Pod; the Panthers have a middle of the league roster built with no plan, and to what end? He emphasized we'll be competent, entirely respectable this year, but "to what end" a few times and that it really doesn't seem like this regime has a plan in place. Joked about Rhule talking about "establishing the run" then doing the opposite. Outsiders see it. for what it is. Mike Sando asked him in what circumstance he could see Rhule staying? He said "the entire fabric of the universe needs to change" lol.

I could actually see Hubbard on the outs all Mrs Rhule jokes aside. Shi and Higgins are golden

He can improve for sure and I’ll support him if he does. I’m not of the opinion he’s this unchangeable coach but he is who he is to a certain degree. I will not forget how over the moon and back many current anti-Rhule were after we went 3-0 last year and they changed in the other direction. People who supported him lost hope but it doesn’t mean hope doesn’t exist. Winning cures all. Hoping for the best outcome—he becomes a great coach and Baker balls out. But as things stand from my perspective, he is currently and still not an legit coach. I’d prefer not to wait on that in what is year 3 but I’m not just all off the rails against him.

I hope we have success with him for the foreseeable future but it’s just so hard to accept that it means Rhule stays in the picture. He’s just so out of his depth and it will be true even if we do well. Coach & QB means everything. I’d love for this version of the team to surprise. The NFC is wide open if Stafford’s injuries linger and TB can’t sustain.

He was heavily recruited by Matt himself and signed to Baylor. When Matt got the Panthers job, he decommitted and transfered to Penn State. They stayed in touch while he was in college and Matt and him are *tight

Some of y’all should look Rhule’s history with Lovett and then you’ll know why he’s here and could stick

He’s been showing out that’s fo sho

Kicker down in his own net!!

That doesn’t exist. He’s our slot.

No trades. Just no trades. I’m for one excited for the Moore-Robbie-Shi (X-Flanker-Slot) triad with Higgins coming in 4 WR sets. We good.

If Mayfield balls out, he could get cold come January. Because his balls are exposed to the environment. But aliens.

Levis is old and inaccurate, doesn’t have the liberty of a long mer development period like Allen. Richardson is unproven, this will be his first full year, McKee should be better and isn’t. Van Dyke is young, hitting the measurables, trending up. He’s the one to peg high. I’ll be interested to see him. The Jurcovek BC kid sucks IMO, he’s a paper champ. Haener in-game is something to watch tho. I’ll back that dude to the moon and back savage garden style.

Levis, Richardson, McKee and Van Dyke are the high ceiling types but a lot rides on their seasons. Jake Haener is a personal fave of mine. Reminds me of a prime Eli with a bit more juice. From what I’ve seen I’d probably take any of them over most of this past draft, so with a few likely having duds, can see maybe 4 1st rounders at most and a few 2-3rd rounders. It’s a mixed bag after Stroud and Young with either injury history, small sample size, or not hitting the modern measurables.

Kurt Kittner

Kubiak and Rick Dennison got dudes to do it to perfection back in the day and their legacy lives on

Offensive splash plays. We need them, and I don’t think we have the guys that can bring them. Shi is our closest thing to a burner. If we need to move the ball quickly, I wonder how at-will we can do it. McAdoo also concerns me from a playcalling standpoint. Playbook will be dope, but we’ve never had an OC with a good feel and cadence to calling plays in line with a game’s flow. Henning, Davidson, Shula, all meh. Chud was close…maybe McA prove me wrong.

People can’t do gimmick posting right anymore, believe me, I know from experience. Well not me personally but this guy I know, he got it on wooooeee

Still haven’t today, will they be speaking to the press after practice? If not today, then it’s going to start budding in on week 1 prep

Also, Sheldon Rankins DT could be a surprise in NYJ. He’s 28, had a good 2021 but it’s an easy cap save for them with little penalty with a similar situation as DET. New regime, budding younger guys, may just not be needed.

Michael Brockers DT/DE Detroit May be cut due to needing room for the young guns there and was only serviceable/not his peak last year. Would still be a big upgrade here though and probably has 2-3 years left in the tank.

Schedule wise and maybe it would be procedural, they formally announce before practice begins, as it’s the start of the practice week with a presser and release. I’d like to hope that happens for all open competitions spot. This can’t linger into the final preseason week/prep for the real game 1

I will not however rescind my question at hand. Who is our QB? If Sam and Baker are in fact playing next week, it appears the NE week being the definite marker was farce or they can’t make up their minds. Yikes I mean, it HAS to be Baker. If it isn’t and I was Baker I would ask for an immediate release. And knowing his style, could see that happening. And then I can see most casual fans checking out before even game 1.

A funny parallel is that what Rhule is doing with Darnold and PJ is what Tepper is doing with Rhule Keeping him around, letting him do his thing, not changing for the better, but still waiting for something to click/work. I feel like they’ve walked the line between patience and proactive decisions very poorly. Top down, Tepper to Rhule. Too quick/decisive with the wrong things, too indecisive and lacking vision with the important things. Examples being the QB carousel, the staff changes, improvements to the org/media/stadium, it’s just all kind of mishmash plan-less, trying to find the next big thing. How about build a plan and execute? Like, I don’t even know the type of offense they want or are trying to build. It’s like they’re just putting random people around CMC and using him at %100000 until his next injury. I also don’t get what type of QB they’d want for their undefined offense, again it’s just like they’re plucking all types and seeing who works. It’s all just erratic and tiring. Everything, top down. Same happened with actually hiring Rhule..way too rushed a move, Tepper getting no extra help/other opinions on best candidates. Same happened with hiring Brady—“quick, biggest college name floating around…you’re hired! OC” It is bananas b-a-n-a-n-a-s

That does in fact make sense. Will rescind my reaction