SmokinwithWilly

If he asks for 30 mil a year, let him walk. If someone offered 2 1sts and a high 2nd in trade, buh bye. Frankie is a baller and I'd love to keep him, as long as the Financials work out.

And from what I read this morning, if Chicago doesn't take a QB at 1, they're looking for the biggest haul for a 1st overall in NFL history.

He wasn't any worse than TMJ.

Bene Benwikere jersey seems to stick in my memory for some damn reason.....

The goal should always be developing talent and improving the roster. If there's a QB that we think could develop into a solid backup or potential starter, we need to be looking at him. Every player is 1 hit from their career being over. It's foolish to just assume that Bryce, CJ or AR don't fall into that category just because they're young.

Get a Kelvin Benjamin. That way if you get any food stains on it it will look even more authentic.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. He succeeded in the regular season. Ive acknowledged that. He was also fortunate enough to be on a team with not 1 but 2 MVP candidates on offense. Plus he went to a loaded defense on a SB contender. That makes your job as a DC a whole lot easier. But now the regular season is over and we judge games individually. Playoffs is one and done. His defensive plan was not good enough against the Lions. Give up 30 and your team loses 7 of 8. That gets you the 1st pick in the draft. Those are the statistical facts. GB wasnt a masterful defensive performance at home either. The Lions miscues and the offense bailed him out. Now it's the SB and I'll judge this defensive performance for this defensive performance. Regular season was good. Playoffs have been mediocre. Just calling it what it is. I'd say the same thing about Ryans and he was my favorite defensive HC candidate last year.

CMC dominated every game he played this year. The same can't be said of any other MVP candidate. The award was his, but it's. QB award now. Just like when Rodgers won over Kupp in the most dominant season for a receiver in a long time. He was unstoppable. Kupp led his team to a Lombardi while Rodgers watched and whined.

Wilks isn't considered a let down. But to scream at the top of your lungs that his defense is the reason SF won after giving up 30 is delusional. In the NFL this year, only 1 out of every 8 teams that allowed 30 points won the game. That's 12.5%. That's losing football. SF offense bailed out the defense in that game. If not for a ridiculous catch by Aiyuk, Gibbs running to the wrong side of Goff, 2 ill-advised 4th down tries instead of FGs, and Lions receivers forgetting how to catch the ball when it hits them in the hands in the 3rd, the outcome of the game would have been different. I'm all for giving Wilks props when he deserves it. But his defense did not win the game against the Lions. If his defense rocks KC, I'll give him all the props in the world. If KC hangs 30 or 40 on them and they still win, it won't be because the defense was getting it done.

Well if KC scores 40 points, his defense isn't beating them. It's like saying if SF wins, Sam Darnold is a Super Bowl winning QB. While technically true, it doesn't mean he was directly responsible for winning the game. Denver beat Carolina in SB50 is spite of Manning, not because of him. You judge the performance, not just the outcome.

He's trying to prove he knows talent so he can BS his way to another NFL position next year after he gets fired from Nebraska for sucking.

We'd have to pay someone to take that bloated contract.

If SF wins 41-38, you can say his defense didn't beat Mahomes and still like the guy and be happy for him. The defense holds Reid and Mahomes to 10 points and then youve got a real discussion about how his defense was key to winning the Super Bowl. It will all depend on the outcome, even if they win.

That's like saying I wanted to draft Tom Brady but got overruled while he's hoisting his 7th Lombardi. Rhule is such a fug nugget.

They exist. At least they did on really bad 80's TV shows. Yes I'm old enough to remember V.

Hard call to make. Let him play and pay a big contract or sit injured and pay a lesser. Not a call I'd like to make. Feels like the wrong one no matter which you choose.

The article originated from a Denver Broncos fan sight. Might as well suggest we trade TMJ to KC for Patrick Mahomes. It would have just about as much credibility.

Bryce and his agent had to play the game because of his size. He's the smallest QB ever taken with the 1st pick and the smallest NFL QB since the 60's. The intent was to hide his size and his arm deficiencies standing next to his competitors, and to push that mental godliness that would offset any physical limitations. Whether or not anyone actually bought it in its entirety other than Dave, who knows. Again, it's just all part of the game and I accept it as such. But to pretend he was a perfect angel in the process is just as ignorant as pretending he's the only prospect to ever do it. In the end it doesn't really matter. Diamond Dave and Yes sir Scott made the pick and we have to live with the results for another year at minimum.

I'm not mad at Bryce for not throwing or for putting on weight to appear bigger. He played the pre-draft game that all players and agents do, plus the timely release of his S2 score and Stroud's possible mistaken score, and those things stand out considerably. Making a conscientious choice do do those things was being deceptive on his part. But that's all part of the pre draft game. Acknowledging that he played that game and ultimately ended up as the 1st pick in the draft is just an acceptance of what really happened. People are mad because the Panthers got duped in a process so obvious that even the most lowly uninformed football fan could see it and that's the infuriating part. Personally, I'm not mad that Bryce played the game. I just get mad when people act like he didn't.

Theilen really wasn't supposed to be WR1. TMJ, Mingo, Chark, anybody else was supposed to fill that spot.

He's singled out because he was drafted by the Panthers and this is the Panthers message board. Part of it is also that I can't remember any other player trying to hide their shortcomings to that degree. The front office was enamored with his S2 score and his interview and its 100% their fault how the pick has turned out so far. It's just another example under Tepper ownership when the Huddle knew better than our FO and that in itself is just really fugging sad.

You can blame Bryce and his agent for their deception, and still understand that’s their job at that point in the process. They’re about as trustworthy as a used car salesman. Anyone with a brain knows that BY didn’t play at that weight and was trying to look bigger. They were trying to hide his shortcomings. Perfectly understandable and normal for every draft pick. The blame for the evaluation of his actual abilities and ultimately the success of the pick falls squarely on the FO. How much of the deception worked we will likely never know, but there’s nothing wrong with pointing out what was blatantly obvious at the time.

Not necessarily to get drafted number 1, but to improve his draft position, most definitely. Being taken top 3 in the draft comes with a pretty nice guaranteed check vs where Will Levis was taken at the top of the 2nd. I don’t think NFL folks are necessarily dumb, but they can get sucked into the hype of the newest test that guarantees success. Now Dave and Nicole Tepper? I think they’re blithering idiots when it comes to evaluating football players, but he was heavily involved in the trade up and the selection. So how do you explain putting on 15 lbs before the combine? What’s the purpose if not to try and alter the perception about your size? Why choose not to throw next to your competitors if not to hide your physical deficiencies side by side?

Cam wasn't protected well by his oline but he wasn't given any of the protections other QBs in the NFL got. Bryce was sacked by fingertips and Cam had guys launching full speed at his head helmet to helmet. Bryce has never taken the kind of hits Cam did.

There seems to be a photographer in the background who looks oddly familiar....