SmokinwithWilly

Yes. Why yes I do.

Probably the first 2k rushing QB.

I was just listing the possibilities that were available, even the unlikely ones.

Cap is roughly 280m per season right now. After Icky's extension (26m AAV), Mayes (6m), and keeping the rest of the oline, Chuba, Tmac and XL, if we signed Bryce to his 50m extension this offseason, we'd be at roughly 160 of our 280 without anyone else on offense. Brown and Horn take up 47m by themselves. 10 players of our 53 would eat up 75% of our cap in 26. We'd be crippled.

Dak can have 500 yards with 6 TDs all to Lamb and Pickens and still lose and I'll be happy. I have all 3 starting on the same team in FF tonight.

From what I had read, and I could be mistaken in my understanding of reading the language, it could be done, although very rarely, with very specific language written into the contract. The passing of a physical was to determine any unknowns. The Achilles tear would be a known commodity going in, so the physical wouldn't apply to that aspect at least, from what I read. This was the very least likely of scenarios, but from what I understood, wasn't totally out of the realm of possibility.

Would depend on whether or not they thought he would recover, contract size, if he had any other suitors, and what, if any value he could bring by recovery time. I wouldn't see it being a likely approach, but for the right price, maybe a shot. And by right price I mean cheap. If BC doesn't think he's gonna get any other offers after his recovery, maybe he'd take a 2 year, vet min deal. Some pretty terrible tackles get offers every year with guarantees and get cut. If you have the cap space to gamble, it could be a cheap cost, moderate reward. A lot of things would have to be in play to do something like that and language can be written into any deal. But hell, we drafted a RB in the 2nd round that couldn't pass a physical. Stranger things have happened.

We're the masters of our own destiny at this point. To get in we have to win the NFCS. Winning out is all that matters for now. Control what we can.

He could. HC is more about leadership than designing schemes. He's gotten the defense to really overachieve this year. I could see that being very appealing, especially to some places where underachieving has become the norm, like the Raydahs.

Ron is an older version of DC. He was always slow to make any changes, especially on offense. Painful as it is to remember, we ran the exact same offense in SB50 without making changes and Denver wiped the floor with us because they knew exactly what was coming. DC needs to be either the HC or OC, he's shown he really can't be both.

Exactly what we should have done last year. Except never sign Dalton to begin with.

I'm aware. That's why I said it will all depend on how he recovers. I could see him getting signed then going onto long term IR, risk v reward, but at a very low cost or he could just sit available as a FA. Hate it for him because he is a really good backup to have but Achilles injuries seem like the quick way to retirement in the NFL.

He may, but it won't be for much. I could see a desperate team like Vegas possibly, maybe Cincy. Swing tackles are valuable and their cupboards are bare, especially LV. That's gotta be the worst oline I can remember. It all depends on how he recovers from that Achilles. His lateral movement will tell the tale.

Plus it's also interesting to see how another team in our division goes about building around it's young QB. These 2 teams aren't so dissimilar from each other 3 years apart. We're also potentially, if we move on from Bryce, looking at taking another QB in the future so again, building around a young QB. Which strategies work best. What doesn't. Information is your friend.

Slot the other team 14 and wait for the comeback is not a winning strategy. He's gotta be able to do it the entire game.

We have also spent damn near every available resource we have to help him succeed and this is the result. It's not sustainable to keep a 100m offensive line and spend top picks over and over on offensive players, and RB contracts. When some of those pieces start falling away, we'll start seeing regression.

At the rate injuries are increasing, teams need another 4 slots just to stash backups for the season.

Build around him. Build the line. Get him some weapons. Keep looking for QB2.

Meet what criteria? These are used in analyzing the whole picture of a performance, not in game as much. For that you really have to use the eye test or have your stats with tendencies already ready. Analytics don't go out the door. It's why the 4th down passes work. Tendencies said expect short play in that situation, not a deep shot. We gambled twice and beat the odds. Hit it and you're a hero, miss it and you're a zero. If I had to rank them in order of difficulty, I'd say 1. Short pass to Coker to seal it 2. TMac pass 3. Coker pass 4. Chuba pass Coker pass to seal it was the highest pressure pass he threw. Defense knew it was the game if he hit it. TMac throw was a very nice throw. He was helped by the play call. Deep throw on 4th down in a short yardage situation. Not the call the defense was really looking for. DC made the play call. Bryce executed. Coker throw. See above but Coker was more open. Still a good throw. Chuba. I expect any NFL QB to make this throw. Cam actually struggled with these at times because he threw so hard. Bryce gets credit for the TD toss, but it was really all Chuba after the catch.

I'm not. It's one reason I hate carry over from previous regimes. You can't really tell who was responsible for what. The best you can do is guess. Even Tepper would have no idea how much say any particular person had in a decision.

Depending on where I pick is, I wouldn't mind trading down if we can pick up a couple of extra day 2 picks if there isn't anyone we're really stuck on. We need some help right where some of the more secure positions get filled. I think we need a true center, possibly another swing depending on how BC recovers, a safety (sorry Nick Scott), LBs, possibly another OG depending on if Mayes stays or goes and hopefully Zavala goes. I know we need an edge or 2 and I wouldn't mind a QB if one with the system potential is there without reaching. This year I feel like we need some quantity with some of the safer spot picks.

I don't know where Morgan's approach lies. Last draft looked like a lot of analytics. XL was definitely not the choice for someone who eyeball watched a lot of tape. One season of production does not a 1st round pick make. He was also involved in the Shitterer regime so there's that to consider as well. This draft looks very promising, but we also have to consider how many god awful players we had so we may have gotten more return than normal because our cupboards were already so bare. I think we cut bait with Sam and Baker way too early. The "competition" between them was a joke. Of course we also had General OOU so there was that too. It's like the FO has been drunk the entire time Tepper has owned the team just to tolerate him. I can't make heads or tails of 90% of what's been done other than someone has a bottle or 12 in their desk drawer and keeps turning it up every time he walks through the door.

You know who else had a high completion %? Teddy 2 Gloves. He could check down with the best of them. I'm one of those people that watches and analyzes a lot, my brain does it by default, and it's something that I fully expect our scouts and FO to do religiously. Football is a sport I enjoy, and I actually watch footwork more than most. It drives my wife nuts, especially with our local hockey team. I can tell within a few games usually if a goalie is going to make it or not just by watching their feet. That's why I said stats give you a direction. They help show you where to look. They're a tool. As long as you realize that they're a tool to be used, not relied upon for absolute certainty. I trust my eyes too. And I trust what I'm seeing. 3 years in, and Bryce's footwork and mechanics look almost identical to his rookie season and Alabama. Every time I see that jump pass I want to scream. Or when he squares up to the line of scrimmage to throw a pass instead of stepping into it to drive a throw. He does seem to have some sort of clutch gene, but he also has a WTF gene that rears its ugly head too.

He's been suggested a few times as someone with the physical skills who was young and could possibly fit the system DC runs. A throw it at the wall and see if he sticks option.

Here's the thing. You compared him to Jake. Jake was signed to the practice squad out of college. Bryce was the number 1 overall. Their expectations are wildly different and so are their contracts. You can talk all you want about what a player is and where they are now and all this other mumbo jumbo, but Jake never had a 5th year option and we weren't talking about the possibility of a top 5 QB contract extension at the end of his 3rd year. What he was expected to be matters because we invested heavily at a cost of future capital, including a 2nd round pick this year, for him to be that guy. The cost to add Bryce took value from the team. To be worth it, he has to add that value back. Actually, I don't prefer yards, TDs, or only INTs. All those stats by themselves are misleading which is why I said you have to use a lot of different stats. ADOT - Average depth of target. Completion %. Pretty obvious until you factor in ADOT. 0-5 has a lot higher C% than 10-15%. Hang time. If a pass is in the air for 4.6 seconds vs 3.1 on a 40 yards throw, that gives a DB a lot of time to correct. Is it a loft or is it a laser. EPA - Expected points added. A way of measuring QB efficiency on every play. CPOE - ranking pass completions based on several factors, not just the throw. There's obviously more, but those are the more common. Typical stats don't show everything. You need to look all over. Looking at a stat line is lazy. That's why I said, you need to analyze everything. Once you start looking at the numbers you start looking at the player. That's why you follow numbers. They lead you places. You look at what happening when the numbers show you patterns. That's where you start finding the problems that yards, TDs and Ints won't show you.