SmokinwithWilly

The playbook is the playbook and it's built around these complicated blocking schemes that don't play to our lines strengths. Changing playcallers wasn't going to change much if you're still reading from the same book.

Which is what makes it even more confusing. We have a line built to run over people but instead are one of the highest passing teams in the league.

Probably a distant cousin of the guys that deflated the footballs for Brady just to help him out.

It's one of the things that was the hardest for me to learn in business. You hire people who excel in certain areas. I can't know everything. My job is to manage the people. Letting go, especially for a control freak, is extremely difficult to do.

Or a team president who's been in the business and could look at the roster and Frank's previous coaching style and roster builds to determine if he was the right coach for the pieces we already had. That's why I have said repeatedly Tepper is the problem. He's trying to hire people to do a job while lacking the knowledge to know if they're the right people for THIS job. You only know what you know and Dave knows hedge funds, not running a NFL front office.

Which means you aren't plug and play ready for a rookie QB to lead a playoff run. Our line is built for running over people. That's not what this offense is. Frank's offense has never been that. But this is where we are now. It doesn't change the fact we've seriously hurt our ability to build around a QB that needs to be the best anomaly in NFL QB history to justify the trade. But all that aside, Tepper picked the coach with limited understanding of personnel and how coach selection would be influencing those players. The problem starts at the top.

But if you watched the games you realized that those were only 3 pieces of 53 and we weren't close to being a playoff caliber team. We couldn't win the worst division in football. With a new coach, new offensive scheme, new OC and DC, normal player rotation, etc, thinking we were ready to make a serious run was wishful thinking. To get to 1 we had to hurt the ability to build around the brand new QB. It was just a terrible plan from the start with a low chance of success.

What on earth would qualify Tepper to choose BY? Therein lies my issue. Other than the interview, what could he possibly have in football knowledge to determine whether or not any QB prospect is a franchise player.

We've half ass embraced it. Trading CMC was the start. Keeping Burns despite a ridiculous offer said we weren't. Then we trade for the 1st hampering our ability to actually build around our new QB. Now we haven't signed Burns, probably going to lose him unless a miracle happens with his contract, have a bunch of dead money floating around. It's been bits and pieces but not a full scale rebuild. Tepper made it clear he wants to win now and we're on our 5th plug and play QB for the division in 4 years. Either win for a season or win for a decade. Gotta pick one.

I'm not sure if that's impatience as much as delusion. We may have gotten close to a playoff berth last year, but it wasn't going to even be by "winning" the division. It was just a game of who sucked less. TB got obliterated in the WC game. Can't even imagine how bad we would have. This team wasn't ready to drop a QB in and make a playoff run.

The fanbase has been ready to do a rebuild the right way. No more of this half ass poo we keep doing. Embrace the suck, cuz we're already there, and just do it right from the ground up.

Nice to think the Panthers aren't moving, but Tepper entrenching himself is depressing.

I think the fanbase has patience, but there has to be something positive to be patient about. So far there hasn't been much from Fitts trades, to the draft, to Tepper, to the offense (or lack thereof). Playing off preseason like it made no difference just put wood on the pyre and at 1-7, the fire has been lit and the fan base is ready to watch it all burn.

Just needs to be a billboard he can see from his office with one phrase, followed by Google that Poo. SCP and the Huddle

Being forced to watch countless seasons of the bachelor/ette by your significant other in hopes that eventually you'll be rewarded, but by the time you get there, it's not worth all the effort you put in to get there.

You're not the only one. I'm not sure we could have picked a much worse scheme for these guys. Icky for damn sure doesn't have the footwork for it yet.

I get it. I'm a Michigan homer since I was little. He wins. But it would be foolish to ignore there were problems in the locker room at the NFL level. I'm not saying he couldn't be a great coach here. He very well could be. Things like problems with players always concern me though. Gotta admit though I do like Michigan being relevant again vs Ohio State.

Harbaugh had issues with the players. What he does in college is different because players are there 4 years and are gone. Not saying he didn't have success, but it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows between him and the team.

Maybe not a direct idea of what's happening, but there's been some signs. Tepper has made it well known, and it's well documented, that his influence is in the building. When you have your boss breathing down your neck, the likelihood of you making good decisions goes down, especially when he has no idea about running a football team. It doesn't make a difference if it was a collaboration or not. What could Tepper possibly have asked at the dinner with Bryce that was relevant to his ability on a football field? Yet after that meeting, he looked to just be going through the motions with the other candidates. The key point is Tepper is involved in decision making. If you need more proof, just look at his wife having to complete a course so she could be involved. She made the call to trade for DJ Johnson. In what NFL universe is she qualified to be involved? Dave and Nicole are role playing as NFL execs and in the process, running this franchise and it's fan base into the ground. Frank will be fired after next season. A new QB will be drafted again. D&T will have their hands all in it. We'll keep losing. Eventually, no real coach or FO personnel is going to want to come here because it will be committing career suicide. Our only hope is that eventually the owners force him to sell the team because putting this bad of a product on the field year in and year out is bad for their profit sharing because the Panthers are unwatchable and aren't bringing in the profits, or, they get tired of NFL Exec cosplay and find something else to occupy their time. Either way, it's going to be painful to be a Panthers fan for a long time.

I get that. AR was my pick if we had stayed at 9. Moving up to 1, it had to be Stroud. My biggest fear with AR is exactly what's happened. He tried to run over NFL guys and got hurt. There's no cheat codes, but there's things you have to weigh into the equation. It appears someone may have put way to much stock in S2.

Damn you Brock Purdy

Who will actually be watching the game to even notice?

At this point in time, I think our only hope to get rid of Tepper is the other owners force him to sell because he's eating into their profits.

It's also that, according to our illustrious leaders, Stroud wouldn't be capable of what he's doing right now for years.

I'd be interested to see how managing a billion dollar hedge fund works but going to work with Dave one day wouldn't give me any real level of understanding. Him being there influences decisions. Adding Nicole to the mix by taking a class made it exponentially worse.