SmokinwithWilly

Not true. Uncle Kracker had a moment of success. Tepper's Panthers is drunk karaoke night Don't Stop Believin'.

Teams perennially picking in the top 10 tend to make stupid moves on a regular basis. Since Tepper took over, we've taken making stupid moves to Jedi level.

I don't think it will be as hard to evaluate him. The easiest thing to look at is has he worked on his atrocious footwork during the offseason. If he hasn't or it's been a minimal improvement, I think that will tell us a lot going forward.

2 guys playing for life changing amounts of money. One played like a dawg, one played scared to get hurt. Tells me all I need to know about who I want to prioritize.

I don't think so if we want to keep Luvu as it stands right now. If we trade Burns, it becomes more possible.

Can't be the first to post the story if you add context!!

Hopefully Burns' agent last big deal wasn't trying to renegotiate super sizing his combo like Norman's. Gettleman was a dumb ass but bringing an agent with zero experience in big contract negotiations was equally as idiotic.

Pay me 5.75M and I'll be happy to be part of the senior citizens brigade.

Problem with Russ is he thinks himself a god. His ego is going to keep him from being a desirable pickup.

Bersin wasn't terrible, no matter how much hate he gets here. He didn't care about taking a hit over the middle and had hands of glue. If you asked me who I trusted to catch the damn ball on 3rd and whatever in the clutch, give me Bersin all day. His game had a lot of shortcomings, no doubt, but having reliable hands wasn't one of them.

It's one of those times when fans can actually say that they could have done better than the GM and been 100% correct.

We're traumatized from years of Hurney, Gettleman and Fitts. Don't hold it against us.

At least they're trying to clean up the mess Fitts made. It's hard to really get a grip on how bad he fugged things up.

TBI effects can last a long time. If he is still having issues, it's time to call it a career.

My issue isn't keeping him either. It's where does that number lie. I think one thing that has probably hurt his value as a Panther, at least to me, is we're seeing other guys who play a more complete game than Burns taking contracts for less than what he's reportedly been offered. Maxx Crosby and Montez Sweat come to mind right away.

Maybe so, but he hasn't done it here. Paying him an elite level contract for what he might do somewhere else is foolish.

He's our best edge rusher and didn't finish in the top 25 in NFL sacks this season. Pass rusher is his specialty. Jadaveon Clowney was on a 10m contract this season and finished with more sacks than Burns. He's not an elite edge. He's just not. He's very good at what he does, but he's not some prodigy on the edge. Honestly, I'd rather have Sweat than Burns. At least he can play run defense.

I want no part of Mike Williams for anything multi-year. Missed 4 games in 23' due to 2 separate injuries and coming of an ACL. Maybe for a prove it deal, but that's about as far as I'd be comfortable going.

Scott constantly thought we were just one piece away. We weren't and he was too stupid to realize we were a whole lot of "one piece"s away.

That's my hope. It just drives me crazy that we had that offer and now a lot of people are hoping that we get offered a single first. A lot of fans realized how ridiculous that offer was. Pick 36 in 23' Pick 19 this year and whatever next year. Burns isn't even a top 10 edge rusher. Tepper and Scott were fugging morons.

A lot of extensions tend to be backloaded. I don’t like the idea of backloading a contract and spending that extra to bring in more expensive FAs when we arent in a winning position. If they did it and front load it, it’d be fine. Id just rather embrace the rebuild, pay the big money now while we’re going to have a lot of lower cost guys, and save that cap space for when we improve.

As long as we actually do a team build correctly for once, and stop trying to band-aid everything, I'm ok with having the 1st again next year. I'd rather suffer 1 more year and have some direction and a plan than another 6 years of whatever the fug we've been doing.

But why kick the can down the road? Save future cap space for when we are ready (hopefully) to sign some key FA to make a playoff run.

We are a 2 win team with more holes than a Lifetime movie plot. It's not getting fixed in a single offseason. Embrace the suck for a year, and just get it over with.