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Great trade!

Not that last year wasn’t a dumpster fire across the board, but with the players nerfing practice reps at every cba they can no longer be fat slobs in the off-season and expect to come get in shape, perfect their craft, and iron everything out in training camp. If Ickey isn’t working on his fundamentals in the off-season, he won’t ever live up to expectations at LT.

You’re making some weird jumps. Why would my logic dictate they trade all their draft picks? Also, just giving examples of guards who were drafted in mid rounds and turned out good doesn’t mean it’s “easy” to find them. If the teams that drafted them knew they would be that good they would draft them sooner first off. And second, you’ve got to come with the data of total number of guards drafted and how many of them turned out good. I’d bet it’s a bit more of a crapshoot than you think. As for why the rush this year. There were times last year when the offense literally just could not play because of how bad the line was. 1st down run for no gain or loss of one if it’s up the gut or loss of 3-5 if trying to swing it outside. False start penalty or holding on first or second down backs us up further. Forced into passing situations and the DL gets three guys in the QBs face within 1-2 seconds rushing 4 and dropping everybody back into coverage. You can’t play football like that, and I’m not exaggerating that situation at all. Something had to be done.

Inside zone and wide zone are completely different types of blocking. Maybe you should google it… Last year, we incorporated a lot more wide zone, which is what Canales has been known for so far, and Ekwonu looked terrible.

Nah he rather just poo posts and act tough.

It’s so crazy it just might work.

Fug, we lost Lock? Somebody put Linville on suicide watch.

Serious question: is SpecialJuan a bot? I mean, I know he’s not fully, that would at least explain why the tweets never get embedded.

He can’t wait for the embed he has to upload before anybody else can.

I’m sure they learned their lesson.

Ok so if I’m understanding this, Evero is calling the shots if it’s a signing, and he’s getting completely blindsided if it’s a trade or a guy signs elsewhere?

Posting tweets = Insider on the Huddle Not that I don’t appreciate the updates.

Well, historically, they can’t. See: Chandler Zavala, Edmund Kugbila, Amini Silatolu, Cade Mays, etc. Heck, even our successes are just kind of meh and short lived like Trai Turner. My point isn’t that we shouldn’t draft guards, it’s that we shouldn’t rely on only the draft. We should absolutely draft OL depth this year, but relying on only drafted guys to come in and fix a line this bad, especially mid round guys, is stupid. We needed week 1 starters, not guys coming out of college and still learning because nobody runs NFL offenses in college anymore.

Yeah, I don’t follow him but I was under the impression he was basically the definition of a talented guy who didn’t have that “dawg” in him.

I really hope so, tbh. I have no doubt the OL as a whole will be better than last year. My main problem with Ickey (besides getting beat like a drum) was his attitude. He came off as a guy that thought he had made it and could just coast. Didn’t seem to have that dawg in him that Morgan talks about. That and an OL guy (I think maybe Mike Wahle) pointed out that it didn’t look like Ickey was working on his craft in the off-season because the things you get from repetition like footwork hadn’t improved for him. Hopefully this past season was a wake up call.

How’d that work out for us this past season?

Yep, Bryce Young is 5’8, we definitely didn’t need to upgrade the OL, Luvu begged to stay, Queen offered to play here for league minimum, other teams offered first round picks for Brian Burns but Morgan wanted Burns to get his preferred contract so he sold him for less, YGM and Smith-Marsette will be all pros this year, the list goes on. I saw you post recently that you were just looking for a reason to stop being a fan. Serious question, what’s stopping you? You complain about literally everything all the time and turn every single thing into a reason to talk negatively about one specific player on the team. You’re clearly miserable and you said you don’t want to be a fan anymore. Soooooo…don’t.

Ah, the yearly huddle ritual of complaining and blaming the team any time they don’t sign a free agent we like, as if the Panthers are the only party with any say in the decision. What if the amount it would have taken Queen to sign here was $20m/season. How would you feel then? Would you be happy if the Panthers signed him to that contract?

Wow they actually posted that bs tweet on network tv? That is so beyond sketchy. How do you count Burns as a one year rental, so you acknowledge he’s no longer part of the team, without counting the compensation the team got in return for him? Not to mention counting the trade that did not happen. Disingenuous at best. It looks bad enough without sketchballs skewing it to make it look worse. If you are a Panthers fan on Twitter you should be calling this out, not going along with this bs. Our fans love to be the woe is me whipping boys though so media will continue to do it. This thread is a prime example. What’s your safe word when you’re subbing for Big Bertha ladies?

I’m not so sure. We may start seeing it now that they have incentivized it for certain demographics. Not that we’ll ever know since it won’t be public information.

Lol Horn.

The best man will get the job. They have way more invested in Bryce than Ickey. They aren’t going to risk Bryce’s development to go with a suboptimal OL. The Ickey who showed up last year wouldn’t beat a lot of guys out so we’ll see.

I actually think he was worse than his stats suggest. For pressure stats they only give the pressure to the lineman who’s man created the “initial pressure”. Edge rushers have more ground to cover to get to the QB than interior DL. The guards and center were so bad that Ickey simply did not get credited with nearly as many pressures as he actually gave up. I know this for a fact because there was one game somebody posted the OL grades with pressures and they only credited Ickey with like 2 pressures. When I saw that I thought it was really strange having watched the game and noted many more than 2 times Ickey whiffing on blocks or getting put on skates and giving up immediate pressure. So I went back and watched the offensive snaps and on the first drive alone Ickey gave up more than 2 pressures. It was just that there were so many jailbreaks where Bryce had 2 guys in his face and Ickeys man breathing down his neck off the edge that somebody else got credited with giving up the pressure and they only give it to one guy per play.

I was really just playing off the “Corbett to Center” thread title but ok. I didn’t put anything like “Official” or “Breaking” in the thread title. The thread is about Ickey potentially moving to the bench…I create so few threads around here and you think I’m in it for clickbait lol.