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Antonio Brown wants to sue the Bucs for... trying to help him?
Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Not really. I mean, if they don’t pick a QB in the draft, and he would sign for 2.5M, it would at least be better than having Walker wasting time and money again. But he won’t wait that long I’m sure. At least there is a maybe a 2% chance Trubisky finds his game. I’d put Walker’s at 0.00001%.
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That sounds about right. I don’t get to see every play, so I’m sure that’s a big part. He needs a strong 5 tech beside him taking on the T leaving him to work against TEs.
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Antonio Brown wants to sue the Bucs for... trying to help him?
Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
I can empathize with someone who has mental health issues. But at what point do people take responsibility for their actions? Should we clear out the jails? Every poor decision is mental health? But I should empathize with a person who has asserted there is no way he has any mental illness. But has a list of transgressions attached to him that is hard to believe and goes back to HS. -
If he were even an average run defender he would be worth a long term deal right now. That’s partially because of poor fit/coaching. But it’s not going to change much at his size. He needs to be a 3-4 OLB full time. And a decision is going to have to be made this off-season. His 5th year is already 16M. I think if he makes the Pro Bowl again it goes up to 20M. Plus, you don’t know what type of DEF you are even going to run with the coaching mess. Which happened after he was drafted.
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This is what should have been done last year.
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Antonio Brown wants to sue the Bucs for... trying to help him?
Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
That fits as well. Like I said, no expert but AB is the only person that matters in ABs world. -
Antonio Brown wants to sue the Bucs for... trying to help him?
Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
He always thinks he’s in the right. His disorder is that he is a sociopath. Bordering on psychopath. Im not knowledgeable enough to know if those are “mental illness” issues, but it didn’t start with just a hit 6 years ago. And it seems offensive to those with actual problems. -
The problem is the credited source is someone with as poor a resume as Rhule ,in these areas. And he wrote a book? There are no scenarios or picks that make sense when a team is literally using a coaches “lame-duck” as a reason for hope. Wouldn’t take any of them at 6. Strong or Howell after 15 is as high as I’d go.
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And like you said in your first post. It makes sense. It’s a common sense. So why cite a source lacking credibility and paste a wall of text to prove something no one disagrees with? As I asked, when did the Teddy defending start? Because that’s one thing I guaranteed was in there. Was I right?
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And that’s the same answer almost anyone involved with football at any level would give if asked the question. So what makes him different? Even half the posters on hear would give that response.
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Or the actual truth. “Lombardi is a punch line as a personnel man in NFL circles. His opinion is only of value to someone that doesn’t know any better” “Rhule has been a joke since he was hired. What does that matter?” I wanted Cam gone from this disaster when cut two years ago and sure don’t want him playing for the Panthers now.” What’s thinking that a QB who sucks, has always sucks have to do with anything” Or the real question, “how long did it take you in that mess to try and justify Teddy being not that bad again. I haven’t read yet, so I’ll guess halfway”. Next up: Urban Meyer: How to transition from college to pro football.
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You should have stopped at the words Michael Lombardi. I know I did. Was the Marty Hurney method of building a consistent winner sold out?
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You already forgot your ball-fondling of Samir and his “savage” cap work. On a team that is in cap hell. He was responsible for everything and nothing in the same thread. That was adorable. Or he was only responsible for the good moves. Whatever those were? But it was me that didn’t understand? Never your homer-driven fantasy. Then discounting anything, and what actually happened, again today with Cam being drafted. Same ole cop out. Just tell the truth. You only want to converse with homer fans who want to believe your “theories” and “thoughts” that you don’t ever seem to be able to back up.
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Dareus is a credible source two years later? Where’s the article. Where was Hurney at during Cam’s Pro Day. And after that day, only one player was going to be the pick. Defending Cam a month later isn’t proof of anything he decided. Hurney knew who was going to be the pick after Rivera told him. He spoke up Against a guy everyone jumped on for his BS scouting report. That’s your proof? Get real. Where’s the Dareus interview? What articles about Hurney/Cam are written before his pro day. Do they have specific quotes from multiple sources? It’s frustrating that someone posts down to anyone who says anything bad about this disaster of a team with no actual knowledge backing it up. Past history, trades and salary cap info you make up as you go. Want to compare track records. Let’s go. You said I didn’t even understand how the cap works. We can test that too. But don’t act like you don’t homer up every situation to whatever fits your current agenda.
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Do you post anything that is true? Ever? Not only was I at Cams Pro Day, and watched as Rivera made up his mind, but also watched Shula give Whitfield a thumbs up that Rivera really wanted him. This was the first week of March. And the article below confirms much of this. Marty nowhere to be found. If it wasn’t for Shula, Cam is more than likely not a Panther. Where is this “on record of RR wanting Dareus instead of Cam? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread-CamNewton/cam-newton-fast-start-erases-doubts-ability Rivera also recalled when he saw Newton before his pro day. As the coach sat in the stands, he watched as players gravitated toward Newton. Rivera knew that natural-born jerks didn't draw people to them like that, and his instincts were affirmed in pre-draft meetings. "When I asked Mike [Shula] why we should take Cam, he mentioned everything the kid had gone through," Rivera said, "He'd transferred from Florida, gone to junior college, and won the Heisman and national championship at Auburn. Mike said that through all that, the kid never broke down. If Cam could do that, he could handle being the No. 1 pick."
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Drunk ass you couldn’t bother to read the post I was referring to on page 2 that says Gettleman hired Rhule among other things. Nice of you to stumble in with your usual stellar research and say whatever comes to mind.
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I guess that explains why you have Gettleman still on the team for years too long, and repeat it just to make sure. And you proved you soberness with that poetry in this one. Here’s the first clue to good ownership. Don’t keep the guy who drove the team diving off a cliff….TWICE….in the past decade. Then ask him, or even listen to him at all in picking the guy who’s not only going to be HC, but have total control. That’s Teppers fault. That’s like a guy going bankrupt twice with the same money manager and then asking that same guy to recommend someone else to you.
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You can sign anybody. Show me where I said otherwise. But every guy you sign on DEF, takes away from the limited space they have for all those other positions that are needed. And investing in a player that can be a liability as much as an asset might not be smart with multiple other issues. All I listed were free agents. And you pitched a fit. But this is your first time even trying to debate it and it’s not what I said at all. The Panthers have many holes and limited resources to fix them. It’s been discussed non stop on here for a long time now. Instead you attack the source and can’t even do that because you know where that will lead.