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Yep. Next year cannot in any way be a reclamation project QB and I'm not seeing Wilson, Watson, or Rodgers happening. And I doubt Tepper wants ANOTHER experiment QB as well. All potential vet FAs are unremarkable. So, yep, they're going to have to take a stab at this upcoming QB class; as questionable as many may seem to think it is. And we're looking at the 2nd-4th guy off the board. We may have to start convincing ourselves one of Pickett/Corral/Ridder/Strong/Howell could be good haha

I agree to an extent. They kid gloves'd him hard after the Giants loss. But to this degree is definitely not sustainable, as it straps us from being able to make big plays that can win games against higher scoring offenses. If they are really thinking playoffs this season (which I don't see happening), we may need to give Morgan a go or find another guy out there somehow at QB (Not named Cam or Deshaun) It could get very boring and ugly from here on out looking at a 7-10 type situation and still no QB. Purgatory.

PJ is 3-15 for 33 yards. NE better watch out for the juggernaut if Sam can't go.

Brady C had a nice game.

Agree to disagree. I don’t mind letting the run game lead the way one bit but you have to take the opportunities that come. If you don’t, the drives still stall out and all you get are FGs

That’s not my point. It’s not commitment to the run, it’s situational playcalling and not taking advantage of opportunities. We still manage to call long PAs with Darnold on 1st and 3rd but we’re trying to secure first downs instead of calling plays with some finesse.

Yeah opting for the first down is what I’m saying is the issue. You’re eliminating the chance for a misdirect, pa bomb, etc. You just don’t see that type of calls looking around the league. It’s more than just being conservative, he’s thinking within each 4 down series and not the sequence/rhythm of the drive

When was this team’s last Td?

Something that’s been happening all season and already 4 times today is getting a 2nd and 2 (or less) We keep going fast sneaking Sam, running a dive, etc to assure a first. These scenarios are the most ideal to be gifted as you can do that on 3rd. You’ve given your offense the shot to run a play action or go for a long pass. Those are often the big play downs. This is a huge issue that Brady is not correcting. He’s looking within each 4 down window and not the bigger picture. A huge problem in my opinion he needs to correct.

Moving the ball but I hate we don’t take advantage of 2nd and shorts. Prime position for long play actions.

Yeah, I see this happening if we can't move him. He's not a part of the rebuild picture. All Scott & Rhule have known him for is being injured. He comes from the Rivera-Hurney regime and I only see them really coveting Moton, DJ & Burns from that squad. Carter, Zylstra & Bonnafon have somehow survived, not many others. I just hope Fit has his finger on things and pushes Rhule in the right direction for acquisitions. It's clear they're both going to be making decisions together. I just hope Scott takes a bit more of a driver's seat rather than a tandem GM thing I feel it is.

There's very few active, non-retread NFL QBs that I'd be game for acquiring to potentially start. I fully expect us to draft Willis, Corral, Pickett, Howell, Ridder or Strong. Then we target a "starter if the rookie isn't ready" type that's not Darnold (Could still be Darnold) There's a nice and ugly list of potential guys that are realistic (Rogers and Wilson aren't coming here): Mariota (2022 FA, Retread, Pass) Trubiski (2022 FA, Retread, Pass) Nick Foles (2022 FA, Retread X3, Pass) Jameis Winston (2022 FA, meh) CJ Beathard (Contracted 2022, maybe) Andy Dalton (No, Hard Pass) Drew Lock (Contracted 2022, maybe, but retread like Darnold) Kirk Cousins (If they don't land a playoff win, I could see them getting anxious) Tua Tag (Unproven, injury prone and a bit bland)

haha I chuckled at that

24-13 Atlanta We hold them in check but the Falcons get a defensive/ST score. Darnold's line is something like 15-28, 190 yards, 0 td, 2 ints Could see Hubbard having a 100+1 td game.

Looking at him with the Pats, he still was having his same post-Watt issues and not running as much. If he was still a running QB then yeah but meh. I’m good tanking with Darnish

Important: did Rhule say it or did the team officially report? If Rhule, this could mean Gilmore is released tomorrow.

Not going to try to interpret the first post. We currently don’t have any primo leaders and have a suspect coach. Compared to our other eras which did (mostly) Ron was running a Ron team with Cam peaking and we won because of that coming together at the right time. Those two aren’t really interlocked. This thread confuses

Nevada has advanced, NFL-level passes in its offense and Strong just has such a pretty deep ball. He does so much well IMO and is excelling in one of the more advanced college systems. The knees worry me, but if you're looking at a pure QB mechanics+deep ball+accuracy blend, he's got the best combo of them all in the class. In general, I won't forget how guys like Herbert, Mahomes, Murray, Cam, and a few others were looked at prospect wise versus Gabbert, Locker, Trubiski, etc. I will refuse to generalize this class as bad. The potential is through the roof and I gotta imagine 1-3 will be hits.

I'm beginning to prefer taking a chance on Corral or Pickett instead of tossing away so much for this circus (regardless if he comes out unscathed). The FBI has been involved since August and nothing seems to really be moving with it right now. I can't even imagine the post-trade pressers if it happens. Tepper, Rhule & Fit trying to justify it all amid pending investigations. It would just all be so strange.

Bouye has been great and I like him for us. Donte before overpaying would be smart. Chinn, Bouye & Taylor have been the glue for us in the secondary.

Always funny how old names pop up while others go quiet...

I don't know what it is, but Strong just speaks to me. That kid's got it.

I personally blame the city of Racine, Wisconsin

This is what happens when you can't get compatible GM-HC-QB combo to generate energy and bring some pull to the organization from a free agency perspective. They simply can't generate buzz & attract. And medium-markets can do it, it's been done and not impossible (see: Buffalo). We simply needed someone like Cam or Smitty+Jake in the past. But even in those cases, it was at the expense of Hurney-building so we never made it sustain or really built for long term success. Stafford never had the right people building around him in Detroit and was wasting away. So yep, the closest we got to great fandom and buzzworthy status was Cam lifting the team in 2015 with an overachieving Ron (McDermott) & the other being Fox's D with Delhomme-Smitty in their prime. CMC is not exciting, DJ Moore is not bringing people to the seats, and Rhule is looking like a used-car salesman. And their lame attempts with TB and Darnold are laughable. Even the crap teams have guys for fans to look forward to, I.E. Lawrence in JAX, Mac in NE, Wilson in NYJ, Lance in SF, they're at least taking shots at a franchise guy. We sat with a degrading Jake for years, same thing once it was obvious we broke Cam. Now, we're in no mans land. We are indeed veering towards Lions territory if the staff can't steer this ship back in order until we luck into a good rookie QB to lift the franchise. Because we clearly aren't getting a top FA at the spot.

Two years or 4+ from being a legit contender dependent on if we pull it together w/Rhule. Problem is we're trending down in year 2 of a rebuild, which you know, sucks. And honestly, have no real central leader on either side of the ball. Brown, Chinn, Burns, & Horn are a most solid foundation on D but we seem rudderless as a team with a lack of identity and some bland as$ offense. We need to have some momentum the second half of the season or it will be much bleaker. And this coming offseason, we need to either land known commodities or great draft picks. No more of this mediocre 4-7 year vet former first rounder almost bust mentality. The DL and Secondary are pretty set. But we've built them so at the expense of pretty much everywhere else. We will have a ton of money for Fit to work with so this upcoming offseason will be super telling about who we can realistically pull into the QC and how they want to build the team. If we happen into a special QB that can run this team, that us saves time. But given we've plucked Bridgewater and Darnold so far with this staff, I'm not getting excited for their next choice.