MVPccaffrey

3 firsts, two 2nds, Burns or Brown + Robbie ends up being the deal made, IMO

That trade has nothing to do with Watson, as Wilson has never stipulated he'll hold out and never play for Seattle again

That win against Washington that everyone said killed our draft will actually prove opposite: it pushed us far back enough that trading for Deshaun was the only palatable option. Thanks Coach Rivera!

The point is, a few defensive players on their rookie contracts who will command huge deals in a few years aren't going to get in the way of locking up a franchise elite QB for the next 10-15

Tepper will give them whatever they want eventually, maybe after talking them down a pick and a player, but we will do it, a lot of fans will whine about it, but they'll pretend they were FOR it the whole time as we're winning the division year after year

It's a hardball starting offer, that's how negotiations work. We'll keep at least one of them, though I imagine one will go as part of the deal. Get on board the Watson train or be left behind

Ya'll thought the Penn State Panther fan traveling contingent was big during the Collins years, just wait until half the population of Death Valley shoots up 85N to support their favorite player ever on Sundays!

There is no next option in Tepper's mind

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/03/17/panthers-locked-deshaun-watson-texans-trade-target/ Choice quotes: "An executive with a team that has been monitoring the quarterback market said Tuesday the Panthers “are locked” on Watson" “But most league insiders believe Caserio eventually will deal Watson, presumably prior to the April 29-May 1 draft to maximize the return." "Panthers owner David Tepper has made no secret of his desire to upgrade at the quarterback position. And Watson looks to be Plan A, B and C." the Watson train is departing from Houston station sooner than later, despite what the superficial public denials are. And it's headed towards the Queen City: Read between the lines, Tepper is as fixated on Watson as he ever has been on anything, and he's going to make this happen, whatever the cost. You can whine about it all you want, but we're not going to let ourselves get outbid for the franchise savior we've been waiting for.

Who looks like the bigger chump once Watson is wearing a Panthers uniform? Scot, Fizzle, or Ace?

I hope he personally makes the finishing touches on the negotiation for Watson just to see you all against the trade cry about it.

negotiating posturing from a mouth piece. Yes we know they want the Jets/Dolphins top picks but if those guys decide that they want fields/wilson then that isn't happening, and when that does indeed happen they will trade him here and suck it up

negotiating tactic

3 firsts + any two players or 3 1sts, 1 second, and any one player, or 3 firsts, 2 seconds

If they weren't taking offers they wouldn't be using their reporting mouthpiece McClain to put out prices.

He’s ours, the writing is on the wall. Dolphins front office has already convinced themselves that Tua on a rookie contract + all those picks are better for them than Watson, and Jets will come to a similar conclusion with Wilson/Fields. Our front office would have too if we were picking that high, but we aren’t, and Tepper has something to prove, and we’re in the NFC, so Watson will be ours. I’ll wager anyone on here in dogecoin. Huddlers will cry about it saying we overpaid but they’ll sweep that under the rug when we win the division

Watson will be the TD, passing, and wins (reg season and playoffs) leader in Carolina by the time he hangs them up. And he will be holding up a Lombardi trophy before it’s all said and done

Absolutely, it's such a no brainer it would be a crime if it didn't happen. We could go 50 years without drafting a QB as good as Watson, easily. Just ask the Bengals, Lions, Bears, etc

decades? good god the anti-Deshaun crew is becoming more and more disconnected from reality

we need a jackass or two to tell us that Houston is not going to trade them, because of course we should take them at their word. Watson, Russ, just get one of them

This trade isn't as bad as it looks. Yes, Anderson+Burns + 2 firsts is a lot, but that's probably at minimum what the Texans can fetch for a talent like Waston, and i'd rather movie Robbie than a third 1st rounder. Moving CMC hurts because of his talent, but he is an RB that's getting paid -- never smart to do -- and most importantly is the price we pay to dump Two Yards in the process. I'd pull the trigger in a second.

I'm all in the vibes. Let's vibe this into existence man! I'm getting my chakras aligned as we speak

If you're the Jets/Dolphins brass, are you really going to move three 1sts when you're thinking fug it, just take Wilson on a rookie deal and put the finishing touches around him? Said this before but it actually works towards our advantage that not such equivalent prospect is sitting presumably at #8, where that calculus becomes much less enticing.

I need someone who posts an average of 100+ times per day to explain why we still shouldn't get our hopes up

Both those teams are also in position to draft those much better QBs coming out of college, allowing them to keep those draft picks for themselves