Mr. Scot

If 2011 was the only example of Hurney looking bad after Round 1, you might have a point. I just named off several, including from recent years.

Only source I need is the Panthers draft history. 2011 for example. Not a single player outside of Cam Newton was worth sh-t. Trading a future first rounder for Everette Brown and the 33rd overall pick for Armanti Edwards? Putting a first round grade on Greg Little? Not only drafting Jimmy Clausen but trying to trade up for him? Drafting guys like Rashaan Gaulden, Will Grier, Sione Fua, Terrell McClain, Sherrod Martin and Corvey Irvin in the third? I could go on...

No it isn't, unless you're looking at the first round only. At the very least, you ought to be able to hit in the second round. Marty did that what, once? Marty's drafts from 2009 forward were especially bad, and "2.0" wasn't good either.

No it's not. Marty Hurney being fired is, though.

Where Pat Meyer apparently was...and not alone.

Word was Slater impressed a lot of people today.

From the guy who predicted that Marty would be working here for years to come, then said Tepper wouldn't hire a new GM, and followed that up by predicting the wrong guy. You've proven repeatedly that you have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not absolutely positive that was Russell but if it was someone else, I don't know who.

Maybe at other positions, but not at quarterback. Quarterbacks who aren't accurate, can't make reads, etc. don't last at the NFL level, no matter how athletic they are.

Drafted by a GM that couldn't build a winning team around him. In a way, that 2011 Draft is almost prophetic.

I think Matt Rhule has figured that out too. If you read what college coach Matt Rhule said he'd want as an NFL coach and compare it to the statements he's made since actually getting the job, it definitely seems he's learned just how difficult the job really is.

I'll grant that's possible, but I think it's very much up in the air.

Agreed.

Looking like there's going to be no shortage of TE options in free agency.

Belichick's draft history isn't all Belichick. In the early years, it was as much Scott Pioli as Bill.

The Saints have franchise tagged safety Marcus Williams. For most Panther fans, their favorite image of Williams is this one.

Given who else was saying it, I think Person was probably right at the time. As far as Voth, "since last season" doesn't necessarily mean "since the beginning of last season".

The other source on this is someone I consider extremely reliable. Of course, they can also speak for themselves.

Again, Person wasn't the only one saying it.

There's also something to be said for knowing when the person you work for is a loser. At that point, you're either good enough to get a job with somebody better or you're not. Marty's now working for Dan Snyder.

Confirmed by the team...

Fair. Dan Marino not being able to run doesn't mean much. Michael Vick not being able to run is another story.

Schefter and others reporting that the tag is now official.

To be fair, Person wasn't the only one saying that. We had some other very reliable sources say the same thing. Somewhere in there, someone's mind changed. I suppose it could have been the addition of Fitterer but I don't have a solid enough grip on when things changed to be certain.