Mr. Scot

I've looked at some of his associations. Here are a few of the options. For offensive coordinator... Packers QB Coach Luke Getsy - considered a young coach on the rise, one article said he's "bound to get a coordinator job soon" Raiders OC Greg Olson - longtime West Coast OC with a solid rep, worked with Hackett in Jacksonville Jaguars OC Brian Schottenheimer - if the Jags staff is let go, former associate of Hackett's dad Paul via his dad Marty On the defensive side... Packers DB Coach Jerry Gray - veteran DC with a good resumé Raiders DC Gus Bradley - worked with Hackett in Jacksonville and Fitterer in Seattle Titans Senior Defensive Assistant Jim Schwartz - one of the top defensive minds in the league, worked with Hackett back in Buffalo (my top choice) Former Packers DC Mike Pettine - previous Packers colleague, has been a good DC but was fired in Green Bay Bills LB Coach Bob Babich - was DC with Hackett in Jacksonville, long and solid resumé going back to being Ron Rivera's successor in Chicago Wade Phillips - needs no introduction, worked with Hackett's dad, wants to be a DC again but up there in years Lotta good position coach possibilities too...

That's my fear.

Ten games over 500? I'm impressed

You should probably make note of the difference between Jerry Jones with Jimmy Johnson and no salary cap versus Jerry Jones without Jimmy Johnson and a salary cap in place. There's a massive difference.

Which is where the self-awareness comes in... Dan Snyder will continue to make football decisions for Washington. He'll also continue to deny that it's his fault they suck. Likewise, David Tepper can continue to make decisions for the Panthers if he wants to, but if he's smart he'll let someone who knows what they're doing decide for him because he hasn't got a clue what he's doing.

I don't question Tepper's balls. It's his brains I doubt.

Should probably mention we're getting away from the point here... The heart of the topic is competence and self-awareness. From what we've seen so far, David Tepper doesn't have the first. Whether he has the second remains to be seen. Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are examples of owners who make terrible football decisions but lack the self awareness to understand that. Jeffrey Lurie and Cal McNair are examples of guy who trust the wrong people, but don't see it that way. David Tepper? He definitely fell into the second category with both Marty Hurney and Matt Rhule. He could also still be classified as type one as well. Again, remains to be seen. What we're hoping for is that 1) he gives the next coaching search over to someone else and 2) it's someone smart enough to do it right. I'm honestly not optimistic, but here's hoping...

Ed Bouchette and numerous other sources at the time confirmed Colbert ran the search. Mind you, that's not to say the Rooneys had no part of the process (and I haven't said they didn't). What I've pointed out was they had their own guy running it, and he was trusted to do so, rather than going with an outside consultant. Now granted, Colbert had been a long tenured and successful GM at the time of their coaching search. Fitterer has only been GM for a year.

That varies by team. Either way, as always I'm gonna take reporting from legitimate sources more seriously than fan speculation.

Yeah, I could definitely hear that in her voice.

Have heard the song but didn't know the title or artist. Wasn't there a female singer who sang this too?

Can't dispute that, sadly.

He did. Can't say I'm familiar with that one.

You have a very different definition of "fun" than I do.

"Danger Zone" alone is reason to include Loggins, but there's also "I'm All Right".

Kenny Anderson... Kenny Stabler... Ken Griffey Jr... Kenny Rogers... Kenny Loggins... And oh yeah, Sister Elizabeth Kenny was kind of a big deal.

Mentioned it elsewhere, but thanks to an NFL rule change made earlier this year, any team that fires a coach midseason can start interviewing prospects for their next head coach two weeks before the season ends. Tepper fired both Rivera and Hurney in season, so if he is ready to move on from Rhule it'd be no surprise to see it happen before the year is over. Granted, that's a huge "if"...

FYI: The league made a rule change this year stating that teams who fire their coaches in season can start doing interviews two weeks before the season ends. This may affect some teams' decisions.

Saw that. Horrible news.

Hell, where else are you gonna find an NFL coach that can explain cytoplasm and break dance?

I'm gonna say Nagy, Fangio and Bisaccia are gone. Zimmer and Culley maybe.

The Post article and this one from SI are essential reading of you wanna learn about Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett has what it takes and a lot more Excerpts (including a tidbit from a Panthers game) Behind the scenes, Hackett has been the cultural energy and schematic force behind some of the biggest turnarounds in the sport. A desolate Syracuse football program became a record-setting Big East contender behind an unheralded quarterback who became an NFL draft pick. The Bills went from perpetual loser to 9–7, nudge-the-Patriots contention with Kyle Orton and EJ Manuel under center. Blake Bortles went from wayward Frisbee–throwing project to AFC title game participant, with his best numbers across the board coming under Hackett. ... Watching him in his element is a little like seeing Robin Williams do standup; there is a frantic energy, a beautiful storm of sounds and gestures. There is a man completely absorbed by the moment. But part of it was psychological. Meetings tend to suck. There is a person yakking on. In football, particularly, coaches tend to lose players en masse as they dissect an opposing defense inside a darkened auditorium with all the vocal energy of a sleep-meditation-app voice artist. When Hackett walks into a room, it is like a live-action comic book panel. One can almost see the speech bubbles with various onomatopoeia pouring from his mouth. ... At Syracuse, players remember Hackett once backed an entire meeting to a song by the comedy troupe Lonely Island (once it was clear the somewhat cantankerous Doug Marrone was not around). He would pause, giggle and emphasize his own double entendres regularly. He’d replace the photos of rival defenders with those of stars from classic sitcoms. “I remember when I got into coaching, part of it was understanding that there was going to be cultural change in how people present and how you’re going to teach people,” Hackett says. “You can’t just go up there and draw on the board. You’re going to need things that stimulate the guys more. That’s how the brain reacts and holds on to different things. How people think and how people operate, teaching just like you would when you’re in high school, people need references to remind themselves.” ... While this all seems like low-hanging comedic fruit, Hackett was teaching college students, so he played the part (sometimes the quarterbacks would come to his house for dinner and compete in cornhole matches that lasted well into the night). The team rarely blew assignments or missed calls because they were named funny, innocently juvenile things, backed by some neuron-firing connection to an inside joke they laughed about during the week. In front of children, he is gregarious and transforms his voice, pulling from a seemingly endless library of sound effects. In front of professionals, he is whatever the moment calls for; it’s somewhat prickly territory for most coaches who find themselves stabbing in the dark with a heap of garbled, motivational jetsam. Hackett, though, always seems to understand his audience. It is rare to talk to a former player who has been coached by Hackett that didn’t remember some deep conversation on a topic that had nothing to do with football. ... Bakhtiari, who found himself recently listening to a Neil deGrasse Tyson podcast on good teachers, immediately thought of Hackett. “He talks about teachers, and what defines a good teacher compared to a bad teacher,” he says. “A bad teacher will always blame the student or the group or the person for not obtaining information rather than reflecting or looking at yourself, finding a way to reach not only the masses but every single person. You can grab their attention and help them learn the material no matter how dry, easy, complicated or in-depth it might be. That personifies his teaching habits.” ... Charley Loeb, a former quarterback at Syracuse who now coaches the position as a private tutor, says he met Hackett before the team even knew he had been hired as the new position coach. (Hackett, eventually, became offensive coordinator and tight ends coach in addition to his quarterback-coaching duties.) Hackett tracked down Loeb in the team’s field house unannounced and yanked him into an empty office, where he immediately started showing him the footwork necessary to get Loeb out of the pocket faster. They’d known each other for approximately 30 seconds, but Hackett had already seen all his practice film and compiled a dossier. He was fearless despite being a first-time play-caller. Once, after a miserable off-location practice at the Fort Drum military base, Hackett decided the offense was getting whooped in practice. So, two weeks before the season, he called a meeting, scrapped the entire playbook and installed a Jim Kelly–era Bills K-Gun offense. Ryan Nassib, the quarterback at the time, set school records for completions and yards, and tied the school record for touchdowns in a season. On the headset during games, he would sometimes answer the booth phone in character, in a kind of faux-Texan drawl to make his jittery quarterback laugh. Awright you slick sum’bitch, let’s go get this. ... A Bills player remembers Hackett designing a play so sinister that they ran it over and over during a no-huddle surge against the Jaguars. At the line of scrimmage, the call was “Bob,” and, after a few consecutive gains, the players asked Hackett whether they should start calling it something else, lest the defense start catching on. O.K., call it Robert. You don’t think they’re going to catch on? Who cares? They can’t stop us anyway. ... The full Hackett experience often comes in drips. Maybe during a banal argument he utters with unbreakable confidence that the cytoplasm sits outside the nuclear membrane, followed by, yes, an explanation that he was maybe going to one day be a doctor. Once, Loeb remembers a player telling the coach he was “full of s---” after Hackett mentioned that he was a great hip-hop dancer. It was a trap his players often fall into, like the time he dragged some of his players at Stanford to his weekly dance class (he continued to take lessons throughout his first job with the Cardinal), leaving them shredded to pieces—and memorably sore—after the session. In front of the player at Syracuse, Hackett began spinning on the floor in a full-on break routine, rendering the rest of the room speechless. It was in these moments that, players say, they felt a stronger connection to their coach. Hackett was unafraid to be himself in a sea of Belichickian cosplayers all attempting to be seen as the World’s Most Serious Dude. ... To measure himself, Hackett once asked his father, Paul Hackett, to watch him run a meeting in Buffalo. Paul is one of the game’s true good guys, a generous soul who, like Nathaniel, built a career out of listening to others and being personable. But afterward, he was confused. “I didn’t know what was going on,” he told his son. “I didn’t know if you were yelling or screaming or laughing or telling jokes or what was happening.” Nathaniel smiled. Exactly what he was going for. This is not just a meeting. This is an experience. This is a stage. You’re here to learn. You’ll learn better if you’re having a good time. ... “He can relate to anybody,” Wood says. “He can relate to people because he treats them well. In life, you want to be treated well and encouraged and feel important. Nate is empowering with his words.” Marcedes Lewis, the Packers’ tight end, enjoyed the greatest game of his career under Hackett when the pair were in Jacksonville together—a three-touchdown performance against the Bills in London back in 2017. Hackett took the time to learn about how Lewis came off the ball, and how Lewis enjoyed the physical aspects of blocking and releasing. So Hackett designed subsections of the offense to feature Lewis shooting off the ball the same, mechanical way, initiating contact until they could seize an opening. Lulling the defense into the belief that Lewis was always going to come off the ball that way, Hackett was able to create chunk passing plays when he would suddenly spring from his typical motion into wide-open field. Even last year as the Packers’ second tight end during his age-36 season, Lewis was averaging more than 10 yards per reception. His first catch of 2021, at age 37, went for 19 yards. “That was all Hack just moving me around,” Lewis says, adding that Hackett still makes him feel appreciated for every timely block that may otherwise get lost in the flow of a game. “He knows how to plug guys where they need to be on offense.” ... Green Bay’s offense often unfolds like a Netflix miniseries. There is a story to each gameplan but there are subplots; the development of a play for Lewis or some Rodgers bomb that will land in the hands of a receiver miles beyond the back end of a defense and jar the audience from a power nap induced by stretch-run plays. Hackett, in his role, is like the fixer. He is plotting and tracking the development of all these miniature powder kegs that will explode when the opponent is most vulnerable. His experience as a young coach hardwired in the West Coast offense was instrumental in getting Rodgers on board with an outside-zone system that can sometimes feel predetermined and stale to control-obsessed passers used to having the offense fit their various whims. His presence added a personality and heft to one of the most popular and copied schemes in football, helping Green Bay stand on its own amid a field of imitators. And, once a week, Hackett helps his team celebrate those collective wins on Fridays during their gold-zone meetings. (In football parlance, the red zone is used to describe plays inside the 20-yard line. Hackett switched it to the gold zone to parlay his love of the Austin Powers villain Goldmember, a Dutch character obsessed with peeling off his own skin made of the precious metal who utters the phrase “I love goooooooold” throughout the movie.) The meetings feature a Hackett-produced video mix of plays that accentuate the best of their scheme and highlights interspersed with clips of Mike Myers as Goldmember. ... Last year, during a win over the Panthers, Rodgers snuck into the end zone for a rushing touchdown and was soon joined by Davante Adams and Aaron Jones for the celebration. The three of them bent their elbows and stretched their hands toward the sky, bellowing: “I loooooooooove goooolllllllldddddd!” ... At Stanford, he was handed a jumbled mess of playbooks and other information that he organized using some of the same database-building tools and drawing programs that had helped him through his neurobiology major. He rose quickly, with Teevens allowing him to wear both offensive and defensive headsets on game day. He still had enough time to take dance classes at night. Somewhere along the way, this nomadic existence began to make perfect sense. Without the skills he picked up studying neurobiology there would be no rise in the coaching business. Without the lab final there would be no realization that coaching was his true calling. Without the background as a dancer, there would be no theatrical edge to his performances, which is how Hackett still sometimes refers to his preparation for weekly meetings. Without the humility you develop as a coach’s son, as a dancer, as an FCS linebacker, there is no realization that our time in the sun can be short-lived, so why not be yourself? Without that self-confidence, there is no Austin Powers and Lonely Island at the meetings. Maybe no perma-smile on the face of his quarterback, his best offensive weapons and a trail of former players who still remember the time they all had a blast doing something as banal as rattling off the different types of trees they could use in various audibles Sunday. ... The full article is well worth the read Bottom Line: If you can read that and not come away thinking, "this guy gets it", I don't know what to tell you.

The Rooneys tend to let their people do their jobs, especially Colbert. Heck, Colbert's been one of the most powerful GMs in the league for quite a while now. Though, ironically enough, the one person who's been cutting into Colbert's authority over the past few years has been Tomlin.

Our buddy Ellis chimes in... This doesn't exactly bolster my opinion of Matt Rhule.

Some would say the NFL. The decision was up to Colbert. It came down to Tomlin and then Steelers assistant Russ Grimm. Conspiracy theorists say the NFL pushed for Tomlin "in the spirit of the Rooney Rule". No idea whether there's any validity to that, but the decision worked out regardless, so...