Mr. Scot

The same David Tepper who was "ready to move heaven and Earth" to get Deshaun Watson? (sometimes I'm not sure how seriously to take these narratives)

So is diabetes. (spoken from experience)

General belief is that he'll rejoin McDaniels in Las Vegas next season.

That's actually a more appropriate metaphor for what you're advocating.

Yeah, that's not what that means. She's basically saying he would come in and get what he could out of it, future be damned. And the notion that he could leave us in a worse place than we were when he got here isn't exactly farfetched.

There's evidence to that effect...

Like a McDaniels style offense...

I'm just imagining his conversations with the players... "Hey guys. You know that coach you campaigned and fought for? Yeah, screw him. What I did instead was go out and get a guy that headhunted one of your old friends. Oh, and I gave him roster control over all you guys too. Pretty cool, huh?" "Oh, and by the way, turf forever!"

It's not my theory. It's well known that Payton wants full control. That may also include having a GM of his choice.

You think Fitterer wants a guy who'll take full control just like Rhule did? Joe Person mentioned that a Payton hire could see both Fitterer and Dan Morgan sent packing. You up for that?

Matt Rhule was a media creation.

The thing about that last game is it gives you a pretty good preview of what Brady is going to look like at the end of a long season against a playoff quality team. Same as with Payton, fans are all about getting a guy for what he used to be and thinking he'll be that again.

Pretty much

Jimmy Johnson was a proven commodity when he went to the Dolphins too. Likewise,, Gruden to the Raiders, Parcells to the Cowboys, etc.

Fangio fans aren't going to want to hear this...

What bugs me the most about the idea is what it would tell me about David Tepper.

I can't count how many times have seen people say "let's hire this guy based on who he used to be" assuming he's just going to be that same guy all over again. Ask some of those past fanbases who hired a Super Bowl winning coach assuming they'd return to their former glory how that went.

I want more than just memories. I want to go into next season not feeling like I did coming into this one.

See above... This is a key point. People want to argue over whether Payton made Brees or Brees made Payton. The reality is that it doesn't matter. It was the combination of the two of them that was great together. Can't assume you have the same success with only one of them.

And again, we sound like the jilted girl, the type of girl that marries somebody just because they want to be married, then realizes within a few months what a huge mistake she's made. That's basically what we're begging to become.

The Steelers are gonna fire a head coach? That's one I'll believe when I see, plus word is Tomlin still has tremendous influence in that building. As to McVay (and Snead, it should be noted) ask those fans what they think a couple years from now If their team goes down the toilet. (It hasn't...yet)

Enough that I don't feel like enduring ten more years of them just so I can hang on to one season like some loser constantly recalling his high school glory days. And again, people assuming Payton would be just as good here as he was in New Orleans are assuming a lot.

Think if it this way: Would you rather have the last ten years of Tomlin or the last ten years of Gruden? For context, Tomlin won his Super Bowl in 2009. Hasn't been back since. You could say the same about the Broncos. They beat us in the 2015 season but have been sh-t ever since. And let's be real: I know people say they'd be okay putting up with ten years of mediocrity, but by year two or three those same people would be b-tching to high heaven.

Well that pretty much guarantees one of them will be available Ironically enough, that also means first shot at the job goes to whoever loses.

This is basically saying that you'd rather have Jon Gruden than Mike Tomlin. Tomlin won his, yes, but hasn't been back for several years now. Still, he keeps his team in contention and has yet to have a losing season. Gordon won his and then dragged the team down the sh-tter.